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Subject: Re: CCRL - 4040 Endgame Positions Proposal

Author: Chessfun

Date: 15:27:05 02/09/06

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On February 09, 2006 at 16:21:55, M Hurd wrote:

>On February 07, 2006 at 20:09:56, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>
>>These are the positions currently being looked at by the CCRL. These positions
>>go back to a previous debate at CCC with a lot of the positions suggested by
>>Sune. The first 9 are from GM Nunns endgame test with one position removed. The
>>other 11 positions were at various times posted at CCC and some were tested
>>previously here.
>>
>>The positions would be used for playing the 11 top engines in CCRL's Pure list
>>at 4040 AMD 64 3800+ equal, all play all 20 times White, 20 times Black.
>>
>>Engines would all have accesss to complete 5 person tablebases and for engines
>>that don't use them the next counterpart of that engine may be tried at a later
>>date.
>>
>>All games would be run as engine matches.
>>
>>snip
>>
>>Thoughts and comments on these positions is welcome.
>>
>>Sarah
>
>Hello Sarah
>
>Great idea, my only thoughts would be to play without rather than with, the
>endgame tablebases. This would seem to make more sense to test the program
>rather than the tablebases. Just my pennies worth.
>
>Regards
>
>Mike

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your thoughts. We have also been talking about the benefit of 6 men
bases.

My own thoughts on without tablebases is since there are a few engines very week
on endings without tablebase support, much better to play with since most
engines not only support them but even those without seek to use them in newer
versions.

Sarah.






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