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Subject: Re: How Strong is Hiarcs 10?

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 08:43:02 02/10/06

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On February 10, 2006 at 11:32:31, Mark R. Anderson wrote:

>On February 10, 2006 at 10:47:48, Sarah Reynolds wrote:
>
>>This program to me seems stronger then Rykba, it plays a mean game of chess and
>>doesn't give the human player any chances at all, great program i think.
>
>Sarah,
>
>I agree that Hiarcs 10 is a very strong engine, that it plays a mean game and
>doesn't give the human play any chances, and that it's a great program.  Having
>said that, I must disagree with your other statement .... as much as I love
>Hiarcs and its very nice style and capabilities, Rybka is most definitely
>stronger.  All of our testing and also inspection of the games between the
>engines confirms this many times.
>
>Hiarcs is a wonderful analysis engine ... it is very strong tactically (one of
>the top 4 or 5), plays very good speed chess, has a very good positional game, a
>very human-like style that is also very active and agressive, and also has good
>PV evaluation numbers.  It also has a good endgame, but not as good as Shredder.
> I use it more than Fritz, Shredder, Fruit and Junior for analysis generally.
>However, I have been extremely impressed by Rybka's play and results (haven't we
>all?) and when using it to help analyze top human GM games, I find that it finds
>the "human" line of play better than other engines, and it finds these moves
>rather quickly also, which is impressive.  Also, it is positionally without
>peer, IMHO.
>

>The present version (1.01 Beta 13b) is a real beast, but when the final verizon
>comes out with improved search and also endgame heuristics, it will be a true
>monster.

"Real beast", "True monster", what's the difference? Both will kill me and all
other programs out there! :-)

 While i'm always impressed when i see a new super strong program, with Rybka i
have the impression that it gets its Chess knowledge from another
dimension....No kidding. It seems to have a higher understanding of Chess. But
that is probably an illusion of me.....


>Oh, one more thing ... I agree with another poster here that Rybka
>"spots" and frustrates attempts to use closed positions and other
>"anti-computer" strategies to get draws or occasional wins.  Recently, my
>girlfriend was really impressed when she saw me get a draw in a game with Tiger
>15 at Game/20.  I said, "Thanks, I think I played pretty well, but this one will
>bring me down to earth."  I then played a similar game with Rybka, and it
>basically turned my game into ground hamburger ... not a pretty sight.  She just
>said, "Oh, that must be the really strong one you talk about."  I said, "Yes,
>there's no fooling the Monster."  (What's Russian for "Big Monster?"  "Little
>Fish" doesn't seem to do justice to this one.)
>



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