Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 10:42:51 02/11/06
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On February 11, 2006 at 08:59:51, Albert Silver wrote: >On February 11, 2006 at 04:16:28, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On February 11, 2006 at 03:59:05, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On February 11, 2006 at 02:01:44, Peter Stojanov wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Why they test the engines that have default opening books with a general >>>>book,sorry but I don't take their results and rating list seriously. >>> >>>Thee ssdf use default opening book. >>> >>>I do not see a reason not to take results seriously because the testers do not >>>use the default opening book. >>> >>>There are people who are interested in results with default opening books and >>>there are people who are interested in results of the engines not with the >>>books. >> >>true, but if you change the book it is a different player, so the name of the >>program should be changed to show this. >> >>I know some people would not agree (who cares), but it is like to force a human >>player to play different openings...it is not the same player anymore as results >>are concerned. > >>Sandro > >I agree. When I test versions and parameters, I am testing the engine, thus I >use an opening suite to annul the effect the openings might have on the result. > >However, if my intention were to test the better program, I'd have to use the >book included, since presumably that is what will bring the greatest results. I >don't think one should eliminate the investment made to have a custom-made >top-notch book such as yours. A strong well-tuned opening repertoire is a >significant part of any master's or grandmaster's playing performance. > >Possibly worse, is to use a book that is fine-tuned for an engine with a very >specific style (such as Junior 9), and impose it on an engine with a completely >different playing style. The book may give great results for the engine it was >designed for, but can easily give much worse results for an engine that is not >addapted for it. I agree as every program has it's playing style and therefore preferred lines/openings. To force someone to play what it does not like is always bad from results point of view; especially for the programs which still have several weaknesses... > Albert Sandro
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