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Subject: Re: Is this a mate in 14? TK 3.33 mate in 15 in 1h0

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 12:38:56 02/11/06

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Here's where the line differ between Glaurung and TK (after 6.Qh5+)

[d]2r4k/3qb3/p3P3/2p3nQ/3p4/1P1B4/PBP3PP/7K b - - 0 6

Glaurung prefere the inferior move 6...Kg8 but TK see 6...Kg7 is 1 move more
resistant

here's the 2 best moves from TK

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
1:08	2/14	Mate09	28545620	6...Kg7 7.Qg6+ Kh8 8.exd7 Rf8 9.h4
					Rf6 10.Qe8+ Bf8 11.hxg5 Rf1+ 12.Bxf1
					Kg7 13.Bc4 Kh8 14.Qxf8+ Kh7 15.Qg8#
2:01	2/14	Mate08	53765389	6...Kg8 7.exd7 Rf8 8.Bc1 c4 9.Bxc4+
					Kg7 10.Bxg5 Rf1+ 11.Bxf1 d3 12.Bxe7
					dxc2 13.d8=Q c1=Q 14.Qf8#

I wish you good debugging with your very strong engine !

On February 11, 2006 at 15:19:24, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:12	1/12	16.71	4763919		1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Rxf7+ Rxf7 3.Qxg6+
>					Kh8 4.Qxf7 Bf8 5.Qxd7 Rc7 6.Qxe6
>					Rg7 7.Qxd5 c4 8.Qxc4 a5 9.Qh4+
>					Kg8 10.Bc4+ Rf7 11.Bxf7+ Kxf7
>0:37	1/13	22.40	14518112	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Rxf7+ Rxf7 3.Qxg6+
>					Kh8 4.Qxf7 Bg5 5.Qxd7 Rc7 6.Qxe6
>					Kg7 7.Qg6+ Kf8 8.Qxg5 Re7 9.Qh6+
>					Kf7 10.Qf6+ Ke8 11.e6 Kd8 12.Qf8+
>					Kc7 13.Qxe7+ Kb6
>1:12	2/14	Mate16	29870103	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Rxf7+ Rxf7 3.Qxg6+
>					Kh8 4.Qxf7 Bg5 5.Qxd7 Rc7 6.Qxe6
>					Kg7 7.Qxd5 Bc1 8.Bc4 Bxb2 9.Qg8+
>					Kh6 10.Bd3 Rg7 11.Qh8+ Kg5 12.Qxg7+
>					Kh4 13.Qg3+ Kh5 14.Qg6+ Kh4 15.g3+
>					Kh3 16.Qf5#
>9:47	2/15	Mate16	188202481	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Rxf7+ Rxf7 3.Qxg6+
>					Kh8 4.Qxf7 Ng5 5.e6+ d4 6.Qh5+
>					Kg7 7.Qg6+ Kh8 8.exd7 Rf8 9.h4
>					Rf6 10.Qe8+ Bf8 11.d8=Q Kg7 12.Qed7+
>					Nf7 13.Qg4+ Ng5 14.Qxg5+ Kh8 15.Qgxf6+
>					Kg8 16.Qdxf8#
>22:32	2/16	Mate16	511962626	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Rxf7+ Rxf7 3.Qxg6+
>					Kh8 4.Qxf7 Ng5 5.e6+ d4 6.Qh5+
>					Kg7 7.Qg6+ Kh8 8.exd7 Rf8 9.h4
>					Rf6 10.Qe8+ Bf8 11.d8=Q Kg7 12.Qed7+
>					Nf7 13.Qg4+ Ng5 14.Qxg5+ Kh8 15.Qgxf6+
>					Kg8 16.Qdxf8#
>1:03:50	3/17	Mate15	1599980495	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Rxf7+ Rxf7 3.Qxg6+
>					Kh8 4.Qxf7 Ng5 5.e6+ d4 6.Qh5+
>					Kg7 7.Qg6+ Kh8 8.exd7 Rf8 9.h4
>					Rf6 10.Qe8+ Bf8 11.hxg5 Rf1+ 12.Bxf1
>					Kg7 13.Bc4 Kh7 14.Qh5+ Kg7 15.Qh6#
>2:51:24	3/18	Mate15	169239946	1.Rxh7+ Kxh7 2.Rxf7+ Rxf7 3.Qxg6+
>					Kh8 4.Qxf7 Ng5 5.e6+ d4 6.Qh5+
>					Kg7 7.Qg6+ Kh8 8.exd7 Rf8 9.h4
>					Rf6 10.Qe8+ Bf8 11.hxg5 Rf1+ 12.Bxf1
>					Kg7 13.Bc4 Kh7 14.Qh5+ Kg7 15.Qh6#
>
>On February 11, 2006 at 07:45:56, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>I am currently debugging the SMP version of Glaurung.  This morning,
>>I tested it in the following position from the LCT2 test suite:
>>
>>[D]2r2r2/3qbpkp/p3n1p1/2ppP3/6Q1/1P1B3R/PBP3PP/5R1K w - -
>>
>>This position is very easy on modern hardware.  Most programs find
>>the winning move Rxh7+ in just a tiny fraction of a second.   My new
>>SMP version, however, surprised me by announcing mate in 15 after
>>about a 18 plies and 68 seconds, and reducing this to mate in 14 two
>>iterations later.  This seems a bit suspicious to me.  When using one
>>thread, Glaurung doesn't anounce a mate even after 21 plies.
>>
>>Is the position really a mate in 14 moves (or less), or do I have a bug
>>to track down?
>>
>>The analysis is given below:
>>
>>2 +181 26 203 Bc1 Kg8 Bxa6
>>2 +245 26 326 Bxa6 h5
>>3 +279 26 1110 Bxa6 Ra8 Bd3 Rxa2
>>4 +185 26 3317 Bxa6 Ra8 Bd3 Kg8
>>4 +192 27 5267 Bc1 Kg8 Bxa6 Rb8
>>4 +215 28 5969 c4 Kg8 cxd5 Qxd5 Bxa6
>>5 +215 29 9257 c4 Kg8 cxd5 Qxd5 Bxa6
>>5 +873 30 11554 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Ng7 e6 Qxe6 Qxe6
>>6 +1201 31 17420 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Nf8 e6+ d4 exd7 Nxd7 Qxe7
>>7 +1295 33 27246 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Bg5 Qxd7 Rc7 Qxe6
>>8 +1323 36 45243 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Nf8 e6+ d4 exd7 Rc7 Qxe7
>>Nxd7 Bxa6
>>9 +1326 44 97447 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Bg5 Qxd7 Rc7 Qxe6 c4 bxc4
>>10 +1340 52 161173 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Bf8 Qxd7 Rc7 Qxe6 c4
>>bxc4 Rb7
>>11 +1379 68 281072 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Bg5 Qxd7 Rc7 Qxe6 c4
>>bxc4 dxc4 Bxc4
>>12 +1403 103 596597 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Bf8 Qxd7 Rc7 Qxe6 c4
>>Qxd5 cxd3 e6+ Kh7 Qxd3+ Kg8 Qg3+ Rg7 Bxg7 Bxg7
>>13 +1510 179 1242976 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Bf8 Qxd7 Rc7 Qxe6 c4
>>Bf5 Re7 Qf6+ Kg8 Be6+ Kh7 Bxd5 Rd7 Bxc4
>>14 +1589 302 2291408 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Bf8 Qxd7 Rc7 Qxe6 Ra7
>>Qf6+ Kg8 e6 Rg7 e7 Rxe7 Qh8+ Kf7 Qh5+ Ke6 Qf5+ Kd6 Qxf8 d4 Bxa6 Ke6
>>15 +2059 876 7256632 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Bh4 Qxd7 Rc7 Qxe6 Kg7
>>Qxd5 Kf8 e6 Ke8 Qd6 Be7 Qxc7 c4 Bxc4
>>16 +2243 1801 14798078 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Bf8 Qxd7 Rc7 Qxe6
>>Rg7 Qxd5 c4 e6 cxd3 Bxg7+ Kxg7 Qg5+ Kh8 Qh5+ Kg7 Qf7+ Kh6 Qxf8+ Kg5 Qg7+ Kf5
>>17 +2412 3753 31443058 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Ng5 e6+ d4 Qh5+ Kg8
>>exd7 Rf8 Bc1 c4 Bxc4+ Nf7 Qg4+ Kh8 Qxd4+ Kh7 Qe4+ Kg7 Qxe7 a5 Bh6+ Kg6 Qxf8
>>18 +9971 6875 57849904 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Ng5 e6+ d4 Qh5+ Kg8
>>exd7 Rd8 Qg6+ Kh8 Bc1 Rxd7 Qh6+ Kg8 Bc4+ Rd5 Bxd5+ Nf7 Qg6+ Kh8 Bxf7 Bf8 Qg8#
>>19 +9971 9814 82302985 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Ng5 e6+ d4 Qh5+ Kg8
>>exd7 Rd8 Qg6+ Kh8 Bc1 Rxd7 Qh6+ Kg8 Bc4+ Rd5 Bxd5+ Nf7 Qg6+ Kh8 Bxf7 Bf8 Qg8#
>>20 +9973 15488 130106000 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Ng5 e6+ d4 Qh5+
>>Kg8 exd7 Rd8 Qg6+ Kh8 Bc1 Rxd7 Bc4 Rd8 Qh6+ Nh7 Bd3 Kg8 Qg6+ Kh8 Qxh7#
>>21 +9973 28792 244255722 Rxh7+ Kxh7 Rxf7+ Rxf7 Qxg6+ Kh8 Qxf7 Ng5 e6+ d4 Qh5+
>>Kg8 exd7 Rd8 Qg6+ Kh8 Bc1 Rxd7 Bc4 Rd8 Qh6+ Nh7 Bd3 Kg8 Qg6+ Kh8 Qxh7#
>>
>>Tord



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