Author: Nacho Bidnuz
Date: 18:18:12 04/10/99
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On April 10, 1999 at 00:46:49, Hristo wrote: >On April 09, 1999 at 23:11:33, Lawrence S. Tamarkin wrote: > > >>Yes, true. Except that these recent radio interviews have left me feeling so >>sick to my stomich, and unsettled, that every time a Fischer hero worshipper >>comes out, I just can't help it! - I've got to say something. As a matter of >>fact it was Fischer that got me interested in chess in the first place. Chess >>has been the great love & the great frustration of my life; Fischer going nuts >>is definately like a great kick in the guts to me. To think that the person >>(chess player), who got me interested in this game, would just as soon see me >>dead, or not even existing in the first place, simply because I'm jewish. > >I have many friends that are jew! They are good people .. for instance they told >me what a "mazuza" is and I keep joking them about that because in Bulgarian its >very close to "jelly-fish" then they told me what is "shlamil" and "shlamasal" >(sorry for the spelling). On the other hand they ask me to say >"Moose and squirrel must die!" all the time ... I had no idea why for almost a >month. But they don't seem to have a bitter feelings about all these >crazy(nasty)things that have happened over the years. >Sorry for the off-topic thing. >I got involved in chess, for a great extent, because of Capablanca. Later I got >into Alekhine, and then into Fischer. All I knew was that these people were >great players and they gave me a better view of the game I love. There was that >*glow* around these people in my mind for quite some time. Then I found out that >one of them was a drunk(alcoholic), while this is not *bad*, the glow went away. >Then BF appeared to have lost his mind(bummer) no more *glow*. ;-))) However I >still remember what I liked as a kid and why. I do not want to paint the picture >in just "black and white", I like to remeber the good stuff that made me happy. >Cause you are right, there is too much ugliness !!! > >Hristo > > > >> >>Another thing (like John Lennon being shot), that is another horribleness about >>our contempary reality. Why does our world have to be this way? I definately >>agree: we should either stop talking about Fischer completely. There are plenty >>of other top talents for young people to amire - some of them are even >>Americans! And most of them are not filled with hatred for the people who buy >>their books and admire them. >> >>We are after all, not talking about the war in Kosovo? But if we are going to >>continue talking about Fischer, it should be no holds barred. If people insist >>on going on about how great Fischer is (who wouldn't consider selling their soul >>for the kind of talant for chess that Fischer was/is gifted with. As a matter >>of fact, maybe that's what Fischer did?), then I feel it is my right to speak >>out about how horrible this person is. No need to change the name of the group, >>but yes I don't seperate out the player from the games. I think it is >>impossible to take that black & white kind of view. I can study (and hope to >>learn from), Fischer's games (or Alekhine), but my opinion of him other then >>chess of course you know. >> >>Eventually the Fischer threads will settle down, and we'll get back to more >>on-topic stuff again... >> >>Lawrence >> >>On April 09, 1999 at 19:26:14, Hristo wrote: >> >>>Lawrence should we change the name of this group to something else more >>>suitable for discussions of this nature. Dann was talking (apologizing) to the >>>people that might idolize BF. Most of the people that idolize a chess-player do >>>so because of this player style, achievements, strenghts and so forth. Do you >>>think people like BF because of his beleive system?! I doubt it! More so, I >>>think people realize that he(BF) has gone nuts, but it doesn't matter, they like >>>the PLAYER, the GAMES. There are people and teachings that have caused more >>>grief to the world than anti-semitism, but should we talk about it here and now. >>>Fischer doesn't have "credence" as great human being, he is just one of the >>>great chess players of all time. If you can not separate those things then I >>>withdraw! If you can, then lets not talk about it anymore! >>> >>>Thank you. >>>Hristo Had it not been for Fischer, there is a great chance that I would never have become a chessplayer. At the age of 14, in 1966, during the Cold War, I was fascinated by the spectacle of a young fellow American beating an entire nationally-funded gang of Soviet players singlehandedly. No one ever did it before and no one will ever do it again. Unfortunately, the hero-worship I have for Fischer as a chessplayer I have been unable to retain for the neo-Nazi Fischer of the last dozen or more years. I had trouble with Fischer's admiration for Nixon and Agnew and his membership in a kooky religious cult, but there's simply no way to excuse a man with an IQ of 187 who adopts a "philosophy" suitable only for bullies and imbeciles. I don't want Fischer to die. If for no other reason than nostalgia or sentimentality, I still love him. But it's time for the chess world and the non-chess world to move on and pay no attention to the ravings of a lonely lunatic. As far as I am concerned, Fischer is already dead. Sincerely, Nacho
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