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Subject: Re: [Moderation] Enough is enough

Author: enrico carrisco

Date: 01:53:57 02/13/06

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On February 13, 2006 at 03:33:38, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On February 13, 2006 at 02:14:07, Ryan B. wrote:
>
>>On February 12, 2006 at 21:55:40, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On February 12, 2006 at 17:16:43, Ryan B. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 12, 2006 at 13:32:33, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>This is nothing more than a flagrant attempt in polling users about possible
>>>>>commercial payment possibilities for your program, and as such I am removing the
>>>>>thread.
>>>>>
>>>>>As per the charter:
>>>>>
>>>>>Once a member gains access to the message board, he may read all messages and
>>>>>post new or response messages with the proviso that these new or response
>>>>>messages:
>>>>>
>>>>>   1. Are, within reason, on the topic of computer chess
>>>>>   2. Are not abusive in nature
>>>>>   3. Do not contain personal and/or libelous attacks on others
>>>>>   4. Are not flagrant commercial exhortations
>>>>>   5. Are not of questionable legal status.
>>>>>
>>>>>What about rule #4 do you not understand?
>>>>>
>>>>>Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Thank you for standing up to the Rybka hype machine.  I believe that you have
>>>>nothing against Vas himself or Rybka and that you are simply making sure the
>>>>charter is followed in hope that someday this forum will go back to what it once
>>>>was.  It is odd but I miss the days of Robert and Vincent arguing over pointless
>>>>side issues.  At least then we where learning more about computer chess from 2
>>>>of the best if the field.  Now of there is a discussion about use of center pawn
>>>>structure in eval no one is interested in the discussion, it is pushed off the
>>>>first page in a day and there is only 1 non Rybka related thread on the first
>>>>page by morning.  Ironically by the book builder of Rybka (That is not bad, just
>>>>funny to me.  It was a very good post).  I hope that at least a few other people
>>>>here feel the same way I do.
>>>>
>>>>Ryan
>>>
>>>Yes, the good old days with all the sloshy mud slinging. Much more exciting!
>>>(Is that what you meant?)
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>
>>No, sorry if I was not clear.  I miss reading about computer chess, learning
>>from the best, and people sharing ideas.  This is the opposite of what Rybka is
>>about as Vas has gone out of his way to hide what Rybka is doing and does not
>>share ideas with the computer chess community.  This is fine of course but
>>reading the hype and watching a group of people pay to beta test Rybka is not
>>fun for me.  If others find this fun that is fine as well.  I will just move to
>>a forum that better fits what I am looking for and continue doing what I do.  I
>>hope this is more clear this time.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Ryan Benitez
>
>You will find many technical posts of mine on this forum and in the archives. If
>you want more technical discussions here, start contributing.
>
>Vas

Most of your "many technical posts" were before Rybka's huge 800+ ELO jump (in
roughly 1.5 years), i.e. post-CCT6 (Feb. 2004) where Rybka ranked 49th place.

http://www.vrichey.de/cct6/index_table.htm

But I'm surprised you jumped on this thread as the head-turning approach seems
to be your modus operandi concerning recent "technical" threads concerning Rybka
and its very unique behavior.

However, since you seem to be in a "technical" mood at the moment, please
explain what Rybka is doing here:

http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?485132

The thread has been posted and referenced a few times now and I would really
like to hear the "technical" explanation from the author.

Do comment.

Regards,

-elc.





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