Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:45:37 02/13/06
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On February 13, 2006 at 16:31:46, Robert Hollay wrote: >What it means exactly? >My doubts: > >1. Vasik wrote an (indeed) commercial post here. This is clearly against > the charter of CCC. But... > What if he had wrote the same text on his own webpage, and provided a link > here to that page, or somebody else posted here that link? One click and > - abracadabra! - we are reading exactly that "flagrant commercial exhortation". > The only difference is that his text wouldn't "eat" the bandwith here. But the > replies can be huge nevertheless, and the thread can grow long. > >2. What about hidden commercial messages? > "I've just played a tournament game with the new XYZ commercial engine > against another top engine, and XYZ has won 8 out of 10! What a > fantastic new engine! I'm fascinated! Here are the games..." > Of course it could be cheating (he played 20 games but didn't post some > lost ones). IMO, this is a pretty flagrant commercial exhortation, > although hidden. > And then arrive the replies: "Where can I buy it? How much is it? Is there > a UCI version too? etc... > >I think that CCC could be free from flagrant commercial exhortations only >if it would be forbidden to mention any of the commercial programs here. >Of course, it would be a much more dull place then... > >Just my 2c, Robert I don't see any problem with "mentioning" commercial chess programs here. Never have. The "problem" that is causing the current maelstrom is that it is going far beyond "mentioning" a program, and getting into how to market the program in the most effective way, etc. That simply doesn't belong here. We've always had the "program xxx sucks" discussions or "program YYY is stunning" discussions. But this has never been a venue for beta-testers to post hundreds of "version .12 vs version .13" type matches. Or for discussions about marketing, distribution, desired new features, upcoming versions, etc. Those _definitely_ belong elsewhere, in a private forum. This has been blown all out of proportion, IMHO. Why not set up a Rybka mailing list or Rybka web page where these discussions can be carried out without flooding CCC?
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