Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 14:12:27 02/13/06
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On February 13, 2006 at 12:57:08, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On February 13, 2006 at 10:43:24, Albert Silver wrote: > >>On February 13, 2006 at 10:23:28, Bernardo Wesler wrote: >> >>>and the truth is (people like it or not) that RYBKA is the best engine since its >>>arrival..... >> >>Not one person has disputed that, not even the main competitors. On the other >>hand, some people have let the Rybkamania to get so much under their skin that >>they have concocted fantastical conspiracy theories on Vasik, suggesting this is >>all some giant marketing plot, threatening CCC. >> >>Not only do we need to stop Evil Vas, but doing so is in the best interest of >>CCC. And if you think I'm joking, read some of the posts discussing this is all >>with CCC's best interests in view. >> >>It's funny, because over the years, I've seen (for example) Theron discuss his >>work on Tiger, and answer any question that came up on it. Especially at the >>time of Chess Tiger 13/14 and then Gambit Tiger. No plots were mentioned, nor >>was the welfare of CCC in danger. Of course, the frenzy compared to Rybka wasn't >>nearly so great, nor was it nearly so superior compared to other engines, but >>his actions were not different. John Merlino, at one point, polled CCC members >>on what they wanted in a future version of Chessmaster (CM8000 I think it was), >>and discussed in detail what was going on, or might go on. He answered and >>helped tech questions, and still does so I believe. Again, CCC was not in >>danger, nor plots mentioned. And Chessmaster certainly dominates the chess >>software market like no one else. Etc, etc, etc. >> >> Albert > > >There are differences. > >Theron didn't have beta testing discussions here. > >He didn't discuss marketing plans, and have marketing strategy discussions here. > No one knew he was aligning with Ed until it was "done" for example. > >I see nothing wrong with posting matches. I see nothing wrong with anyone >answering questions, although I have not seen Vas really answer any technical >questions about Rybka other than how to do something or to verify some bug >report. Maybee you did not look so closely? I did a search on Vas to check this out and the first two messages I looked at where general chess program issues.... > >However, major beta-testing discussions don't belong here. I'm doing beta >testing regularly and you haven't seen a single post about it here, because it >doesn't belong here. Marketing discussions, polling users about a possible >"subscription service" and the like do not belong here. Etc. I found the issue very interesting. The way chess programs are distributed affect most of us a lot. I can see that CCC may not be the right forum for such a discussion, but in no way will I consider it a marketing plot or anything like that. Torstein > >Much of what has been posted is perfectly ok. But there is a significant >quantity of stuff that really is _not_ ok by our charter. That's the part that >needs to dry up.
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