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Subject: Re: Funny thing happened on the way of a Forum!

Author: Andrew Walker

Date: 21:57:44 02/14/06

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On February 14, 2006 at 22:22:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 14, 2006 at 17:14:09, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On February 14, 2006 at 16:39:50, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On February 14, 2006 at 16:36:32, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 14, 2006 at 11:52:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 14, 2006 at 11:45:30, Duncan Roberts wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 13, 2006 at 13:48:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You are missing a major problem.  Many professional engine authors have posted
>>>>>>>here, and answered questions, and the like.  But you have _not_ seen them
>>>>>>>discussing marketing ideas, nor beta testing results, nor any of the other
>>>>>>>"behind-the-scenes" activities that go on the the life-cycle of a professional
>>>>>>>chess program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's the difference here.  The discussions ventured off into the "would you
>>>>>>>rather pay for a single copy or a subscription to multiple updates?"  and so
>>>>>>>forth, which _clearly_ do not belong here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's that part of this that has gone over the top.  All the games played by
>>>>>>>Rybka are fine.  I can skip 'em if I am not interested, but they are about
>>>>>>>computer chess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>changing the subject slightly, I would value your opinion on Rybka. Is it as
>>>>>>good as people say it is. ? any comments generally about its strength.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>duncan
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm really the wrong one to ask.  Crafty has been on ICC sporadically the last
>>>>>few weeks, because of the offline testing I've been doing.  So I have not had
>>>>>the opportunity to watch very many games to develop an opinion about what Rybka
>>>>>is doing better than everyone else...
>>>>>
>>>>>Eventually I will start looking at ICC games and then perhaps will begin to see
>>>>>what sort of "trends" I notice.
>>>>
>>>>It won't take many games to spot a few glaring ones. IMHO.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Mod objection!
>>>Dont speak in secrets!
>>>Speak so that even Rolf understands what you are saying.
>>>Otherweise beheading should be appropriate.
>>>Rolf [= 5 sentences]
>>
>>:)  The secret is more in 'how' Rybka does what it does differently. Seeing part
>>of 'what' it does that is different from other programs won't take many games to
>>become visible.
>>
>>                                     Albert
>\
>
>I've found that the "how" is pretty easy, once the "what" is found.  There are a
>couple of passed pawn issues I have already noticed and even done a few changes
>for myself...

We'll be closely looking at the changes section :-)

Andrew



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