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Subject: Re: The Rybka Flamewar & question for Vasik

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 15:43:44 02/15/06

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On February 15, 2006 at 16:55:14, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On February 15, 2006 at 15:20:16, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On February 15, 2006 at 15:11:30, Orlando Mouchel wrote:
>>
>>>>So, Vasik, please tell me: why would you would want to hide the node count of
>>>>Rybka?
>>>
>>>Hi Anthony,(sorry for my bad english)
>>>
>>>You know, you are not the only one to have doubts about the honesty of Mr.
>>>Rajlich. To be more precise, these doubts multiply more and more among the
>>>programmers all around the world. More especially as I have just noticed that it
>>>did not answer your question! Admittedly, this right belongs to him.
>>>
>>>While waiting, why not make free the very good "Zappa 2.0"? Using more tests,
>>>one could then better appreciate his real power !
>>>
>>>Best regards
>>>
>>>Orlando
>>
>>
>> You have to back this up.
>>
>> 1) Please specify your doubts about the *honesty* of Mr Rajlich.
>>
>> 2) Which are the "programmers all around the world" - that share
>>    your doubts about the *honesty* of Mr Rajlich.
>> If you can't back it up - I will consider your post as a troll and
>> it should be removed.
>
>Actually it's not a troll.
>
>I talked to 30 programmers. All 30 except for 2 found it bad taste. So that's
>28-2. Look a lawyer undoubtfully can defend anything, but there is a difference
>between making marketing for your program and doing statements which only a
>laywer can defend.
>
>Note i didn't talk with hyatt yet.
>
>But there is a weird difference between the average engine, Junior, Tiger, Rybka
>and Hydra.
>
>Junior is creative in counting nodes. Futile evaluated nodes seem to get counted
>as nodes. More nps = good.
>
>A big handicap of diep always was that despite running on 512 cpu's my nps was
>always low. So sponsors then ask: "how many positions a second do you get?"
>
>Then i tell them the nps of diep, and you see their face change in a kind of
>expression like: "did i give you such good hardware to get such a low nps?"
>
>Tigers nps works different again. As a professional programmer explained who is
>using his debugger as an extension of his crucial physical part: "Tiger just
>counts full evaluated nodes". Tiger in terms of nps is the fastest pc program.
>Vasik will get wet dreams ever reaching that nps, as in bitboards it's simply
>not possible to get such amounts of nps.
>

My question here is simply, what is "wet dreams"? (in your context)
S.Taylor



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