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Subject: Re: Bobby Fischer/Grandmaster in History

Author: Mark Loftus

Date: 05:28:26 04/13/99

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On April 10, 1999 at 10:50:17, Lawrence S. Tamarkin wrote:

>On April 10, 1999 at 09:37:54, eric guttenberg wrote:
>
>>I suspect "fear of losing" may have been a factor in Fischer's quitting
>>after he won the championship in 1972. That fear may have been a motivating
>>factor for him on the way to the title but once he had nowhere to go but
>>down, it may have become a disabling factor.  If you want to call that
>>"cowardice", I won't argue-you are probably right.
>>But I think it is unfair to let personal dislike of a person, however
>>justified, cause us to ignore facts.
>>Let's face it, ELO ratings are pretty relative anyway and are probably
>>a poor way to compare players from different eras.  Does a 2700 rating
>>in 1970 have the same meaning as a 2700 rating in 1999?  The fact is
>>that between March 1970 when Fischer beat Petrosian 3-1 in the World vs.
>>USSR match and September 1972 when he won the title, Fischer showed a
>>degree of dominance that had not been seen in chess in over a hundred
>>years.  He played in , I believe 3 extremely strong tournaments,
>>winning them all. He played in a very powerful blitz tournament and won
>>by a huge margin. He won 3 candidates matches against 3 of the best
>>grandmasters around-two of them by shutout scores of 6-0. And he beat
>>a very highly regarded Spassky by 12 1/2- 8 1/2, including a forfeiture
>>loss.
>>
>>In that 2 1/2 year period, he played roughly 100 games, not counting
>>speed tournaments, lost only 5 and at one point, covering the end of
>>the interzonal and the candidates matches, won 20 games in a row,
>>without even a draw against the best grandmasters in the world.
>>
>>A few years ago, I read a quote from Kasparov that he viewed Fischer
>>as the all-time greatest player because he believed the best way to
>>measure that is to look at the gap between the player in question and
>>his contemproraries and Fischer's gap was "huge".
>>
>>Whatever Fischer has done since 1972, I think it is only fair to
>>recognize that at one time he was a great competitor, with skill and
>>courage. What he has become since then is a different story, but
>>that shouldn't erase his accomplishments from the stream of
>>history.
>>
>>eric
>
>
>Why not?  Fischer thinks there was no Holocust.  He deserves the same
>consideration from history as all the Jews, Polish and other millions who
>perrished in Historys greatest disaster.  Oh, I forgot, it never happened...
>
>
>mrslug - the inkompetent chess software addict!

lighten up mrslug, reverse prejudice is not cool either
the hatred has to stop somewhere
the world has a lot of mixed up people, shall we hate them all


Mark Loftus





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