Author: Zappa
Date: 10:17:10 02/16/06
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On February 16, 2006 at 06:21:57, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>On February 15, 2006 at 10:20:18, Zappa wrote:
>
>>So I dropped by to see how my old buddies in CCC were doing, and found a massive
>>flamewar :) This is far more to my liking than dry test results, so I thought
>>I'd weigh in with a few comments.
>>
>>The majority of members in CCC seem to be unable to think rationally about
>>Rybka. I saw the following argument about 500X: "Vasik is violating the
>>charter" "But Rybka is so awesome". Clearly this is complete idiocy. The law
>>is intended to apply to everyone equally, regardless of whether or not they have
>>an awesome engine.
>>
>>I left (and this is not a coming back post) because I didn't like reading tons
>>of testing posts. However, the majority of people here appear to like it here.
>> From what I read in the flamewar Skinner seems correct that Vasik violated the
>>charter, but perhaps rather than crucifying Vasik (or Skinner), the charter
>>should be amended so the club serves the interest of the majority. It really
>>seems like the majority of people don't mind his "commerical posts" - so what's
>>the problem?
>>
>>I also read Enrico's post on Rybka's nodecount. Vasik claimed it was the result
>>of a bug. I read that as "my node count obfuscation algorithm has a bug and
>>will be fixed posthaste". If you look at Enrico's numbers, its obvious that
>>Rybka is really searching at 2-3M+ nps on big hardware.
>>
>>So, Vasik, please tell me: why would you would want to hide the node count of
>>Rybka?
>>
>>anthony
>
>
>Interesting post. And very telling. Demands some kind of reply, at least from
>a curious member of the CCC (but surely not from Vasik, as the question you ask
>is rather impertinent and irrelevant for the masses): why wouldn't you,
>Anthony, want to release your program so that Chrilly Donninger might try his
>disassembling skills on Zappa as he did with Rybka? A reminder for you: the
>verdict was that Rybka had no other program's code in it...
>
>If Rybka's code is messy and obfuscated, so be it. What's your code like remains
>to be seen, of course :-). LOL.
>
>Djordje
I really don't understand your post at all. I am not saying that Rybka is a
clone. Nor am I saying that his source code is messy. I am just curious why he
deliberately modifies his node count/nps. No one else does this. Sure, some
people have different styles of counting. But no one does printf("nps / 20"),
and that appears to be what Vasik is doing.
anthony
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