Author: Vasik Rajlich
Date: 11:39:34 02/16/06
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On February 16, 2006 at 13:17:10, Zappa wrote:
>On February 16, 2006 at 06:21:57, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>On February 15, 2006 at 10:20:18, Zappa wrote:
>>
>>>So I dropped by to see how my old buddies in CCC were doing, and found a massive
>>>flamewar :) This is far more to my liking than dry test results, so I thought
>>>I'd weigh in with a few comments.
>>>
>>>The majority of members in CCC seem to be unable to think rationally about
>>>Rybka. I saw the following argument about 500X: "Vasik is violating the
>>>charter" "But Rybka is so awesome". Clearly this is complete idiocy. The law
>>>is intended to apply to everyone equally, regardless of whether or not they have
>>>an awesome engine.
>>>
>>>I left (and this is not a coming back post) because I didn't like reading tons
>>>of testing posts. However, the majority of people here appear to like it here.
>>> From what I read in the flamewar Skinner seems correct that Vasik violated the
>>>charter, but perhaps rather than crucifying Vasik (or Skinner), the charter
>>>should be amended so the club serves the interest of the majority. It really
>>>seems like the majority of people don't mind his "commerical posts" - so what's
>>>the problem?
>>>
>>>I also read Enrico's post on Rybka's nodecount. Vasik claimed it was the result
>>>of a bug. I read that as "my node count obfuscation algorithm has a bug and
>>>will be fixed posthaste". If you look at Enrico's numbers, its obvious that
>>>Rybka is really searching at 2-3M+ nps on big hardware.
>>>
>>>So, Vasik, please tell me: why would you would want to hide the node count of
>>>Rybka?
>>>
>>>anthony
>>
>>
>>Interesting post. And very telling. Demands some kind of reply, at least from
>>a curious member of the CCC (but surely not from Vasik, as the question you ask
>>is rather impertinent and irrelevant for the masses): why wouldn't you,
>>Anthony, want to release your program so that Chrilly Donninger might try his
>>disassembling skills on Zappa as he did with Rybka? A reminder for you: the
>>verdict was that Rybka had no other program's code in it...
>>
>>If Rybka's code is messy and obfuscated, so be it. What's your code like remains
>>to be seen, of course :-). LOL.
>>
>>Djordje
>
>I really don't understand your post at all. I am not saying that Rybka is a
>clone. Nor am I saying that his source code is messy. I am just curious why he
>deliberately modifies his node count/nps. No one else does this. Sure, some
>people have different styles of counting. But no one does printf("nps / 20"),
>and that appears to be what Vasik is doing.
>
>anthony
It's not what I'm doing. I really don't know how you came to that conclusion.
Although it's true that my node counting is a bit unusual, with a little bit of
effort I could make it more conventional.
Vas
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