Author: Heinz van Kempen
Date: 10:07:49 02/19/06
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On February 19, 2006 at 12:36:05, Uri Blass wrote: >If you did not say the following words then it is better if Kirill Kryukov >apologizes. > >If you said them about testers who left then it is better if you apologize even >if you did not mean specifically to Ray. > >I guess that it is possible to check the facts and agree about them because the >words were posted in a forum so people who read them know what they read. > >"> Such times of crisis are also those of cleaning, because then >> it shows who are the really fragile people and who is shy of >> conflicts and can't bear anything. Those who really identify >> with the team do not have real probs with managing the conflict, >> because they decided to continue to fight on." > >Uri Hi Uri, it is quite unfair by CCRL members to continue now when I already have decided to leave. The context was the following: In an email to a few CEGT members I asked Ray if Graham would have something against me, because his emails were always without words or mostly in the beginning, when he sent logos or tournament updates daily and in the beginning he also did not post in the old CEGT forum. Ray answered. that Graham would have nothing against me, but thinks that I am oversensitive about anything regarding CEGT. In another email regarding the Christian conflict Kirill reproached me to be too fragile. When it came to the climax of the crisis when Ray dropped out, because I thought and wrote that it was unfair to remove a post about using the W.D. book from the open to the private section not visible for example for Harry Schnapp by moderator Ray Banks, and in my opinion a totally constructed point for disagreement and when Ray after this decided not to answer anymore, least to participate in discussion proposed by Uschi, then I wrote that Ray could not bear the slightest criticism and that I do not understand why they reproached to me then fragility and oversensitiveness. Ray was the last one I wanted to lose and fact is that I always praised his work and we had a friendly contact until he took definitely always Kirill´s point of view with anything, although having a different opinion before. What CCRL testers are presenting here in combined efforts is mostly distortion of the truth. Open the old CEGT forum please!!! I think CCRL testers can now finally stop the flameware five (Ray, Graham, Kirill, Sarah, A.S.) against one. I have fairly asked some other CEGT testers not to participate in discussion here, because things would have escalated even more with their support for me. One proposal. If I can be sure that nothing will be changed or falsified, why not open the old CEGT forum (administrator Kryukov)for all. So everyone can see what we all wrote there. There is nothing I have to be ashamed of, no really evil words, but maybe some hard discussion like also by others and only in the end. I was attacked and fought back in the last days and we had nice relations in the beginning. You will find all there including interesting posts about chess and testing, including psychological explanations by Uschi about group dynamics. When doing so, you should also give the "private section" for free. I will never want to have again such a private section and it is not necessary to hide things from a few. This would be one way to see the truth and anyway it is not the complete picture, because there were also emails between Kirill and me trying to conciliate and work hand in hand. So be fair once and for all. Stop attacking me, because now I cannot and will not defend anymore after withdrawing here. Open the old forum so that everyone can read there including the private section. Do not alter or falsify anything because I backed up all the stuff. Best Regards Heinz
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