Author: Uri Blass
Date: 17:30:22 02/19/06
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On February 19, 2006 at 14:40:49, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >On February 19, 2006 at 13:07:49, Heinz van Kempen wrote: > >>One proposal. If I can be sure that nothing will be changed or falsified, why >>not open the old CEGT forum (administrator Kryukov)for all. So everyone can see >>what we all wrote there. There is nothing I have to be ashamed of, no really >>evil words, but maybe some hard discussion like also by others and only in the >>end. I was attacked and fought back in the last days and we had nice relations >>in the beginning. You will find all there including interesting posts about >>chess and testing, including psychological explanations by Uschi about group >>dynamics. When doing so, you should also give the "private section" for free. > >Uri, yes I want to address you now, > >if you are really as old as I think, if you are as smart and nice as I think and >if you are also willing to read what I'm telling you now, then do the right >thing. The right thing is to reflect your former message with the alleged >solution - if Heinz had written "this" (NB in email!!) then he should apologize >and else someone else should apologize. I for one find you made a faulty >message. Because even if Heinz had written that quoted part in email then this >is nothing, I quote his words, where he must be ashamed of. Please reflect what >you wrote and do please more. Read what Heinz wrote above. > >The above part of his long message shows beyond doubt - to me - that Heinz is a >very valubale human with good intentions but "with something" he interesting >enough applied to other people which then cause you to argue against him and >others to leave. All have had their reasons but as it seems it is Heinz now who >sufferes the most. And therefore I call you by your honor so that you reflect >your former alternative message. Because the truth is Heinz is now completely in >a trap. Although he hasnt committed a crime. And only has good intentions to do >some good tests. > >Isnt that a moment where (former?) friends should help him out?? Perhaps >everything could be worked out if all could consider how bad things are now >turning? > >The quote you gave, Uri, doesnt contain anything significant for such a ballyhoo >from all sides. You all seem to forget that this here is all in a virtual >reality. So "fragile" is always meant in connection with this online writing. >So, even if that has all been written, it is nothing why now someone had to >suffer beyond his own defenses as a human being. We are not here to chase other >people, we are not scapegoating them. > >I see no reason why not everybody could join a united effort to create a big >testing group or groups. > >If you, Uri, and also others now reflect this all over and change your direction >then this isnt favorable for someone or humiliating for those to change. My >verdict is that objectively the whole event isnt worth sleepless nights. This >isnt about death, about divorce, about losing real friends. This is all >happening under the dangerous sphere of online communication with its many >misunderstandings. > >Uri, could you do me a favor? Do also convince Kyrill that this part you quoted >isnt lingually not a crime or an insult. Like you I see that Heinz is a bit in a >control trap where he personally thinks that everything could go into a big >chaos. But basically Heinz feels the pain of the hole the friends had left >behind when they left him. The text above is the proof for that pain. > >Please give Heinz a helping hand without bad or twisted or hidden feelings. Just >help him. > >I will always stand in your duty if you do this for me and in the last for Heinz >of course. > >Yours, Rolf I think that it may be better not to respond to it. Note only that I did not claim that Heinz had bad intentions and certainly I did not claim that he did a crime because even insulting people intentionally is not what I define as a crime. A crime is defined by simple translation to hebrew as something that you can sit in prison for a long time for doing it. Uri
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