Author: Richard G. Fadden
Date: 18:39:37 02/20/06
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On February 20, 2006 at 17:00:23, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>On February 20, 2006 at 15:38:03, Joseph Ciarrochi wrote:
>
>>I don't think it says the release is in may 1 2006. it says that we have bought
>>a subscription till may 2006 .
>>
>>The engine is already fantastic, so i am pleased that vasik is giving himself
>>time. What i don't want is for him to rush the engine, and give us a "final
>>product" that is highly flawed. Then we have to pay another 35 euro to get the
>>next version.
>>
>>I think if rybka is to be a financial success, it must stay at number 1 for
>>awhile. It needs to get a reputation as the best analysis tool. Then, chess
>>players, desperate for any edge, will buy it.
>>
>>I am sure fruit and shredder authors are already looking for ways to negate
>>rybka's advantage with passed pawns. That seems like something immiediatly
>>achievable. there may be other adjustments that could eliminate the gap between
>>rybka and other engines.
>>
>>Rybka is now in every programmers cross-hairs (gun sight). Vasik needs to final
>>product to be very strong if it is to stay on top
>
>As I have said before, you all are putting Vas to high on that pedestal. I dont
>think there is anyway he can meet talked about expectations being expressed.
>The Delay suggests this to be possibly the case.
>
>I have talked to My sons (both proffesional programmers) of my intention to
>purchase Rybka, I am having difficulty holding back my purchase order . It is
>for this precise reason I decided to be poatient. I am not interested in
>purchasing a Beta or a projected release date of the program.
>See, here is the thing for me. I will be happy with the strength of Rybka right
>now. A good book, Tablebases, no major bugs and that would be fine.
>Release the program as 1.2 and work free of pressure on beta's or future
>releases as Vas feels appropriate.
>
>Make sense ?, it does to me
>Wayne
Yes, your approach makes sense to me, but I purchased Rybka a couple of
weeks ago and here is my experience. I downloaded all versions including the
earler version that did not call itself beta, and then I started playing against
the latest engine "beta 13b" at the time. The engine seemed to work great, so I
started a series of Arena matches, and my Rybka 13b won every match (tournament)
that I set up.
I then went out and purchased two other commercial engines, and then added
those to my own tournaments. For these new engines I paid more for each one
than I paid for Rybka, and as everyone would expect, Rybka still won every
competition.
I then ordered Shredder 9, Hiarcs 10, and Fritz 9, but that is when I found
the ratings lists that indicate my new engines will most likely fall in line
behind Rybka. Of the seven engines that I've purchased recently (I also
purchased Fruit 2.2.1) I am most pleased with the Rybka engine that I
downloaded.
Note that running two weeks on two machines Rybka beta 13b did crash once
during that time, but that didn't bother me - it hasn't happened since. Lately
I have been using the beta 13d version and it seems the same to me...
So I'm just giving my experience. I've been writing that I have already
received my money's worth and then some. It may sound odd but I was actually
happy today to hear that I would receive all of the versions up until May 1.
The current Rybka engine is great! It beats everything in my house, and I think
Vas will give us some additional goodies before May 1, so I'm very happy.
If I had a friend interested in computer chess I would say to him or her:
go ahead and buy this product, I think it's great just the way it is now.
Like I mentioned in another post, I'm not related to these guys... ha!
I appreciate your point of view... and thanks for listening...
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