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Subject: Re: Test position === Fischer vs Stein, 1967 Sousse Interzonal (revisite

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 21:14:53 02/20/06

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On February 20, 2006 at 21:39:05, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On February 20, 2006 at 20:57:29, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On February 20, 2006 at 19:49:06, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>
>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?find_thread=271717
>>>
>>>Prevously, someone had speculated tha Fischer played Bxf5 due to the strength of
>>>Black's position, i.e., Bxf5 may be the best hope for white to score a half
>>>point.
>>>
>>>Crafty 20.3  agrees with that assessment.
>>
>>Yes, but so do a lot of other engines, and much faster (Rybka, Shredder, even
>>Amateur).  You'll have to come up with something more on-point if you're trying
>>to show crafty's strength.
>>
>>Will
>
>Really ?   If Shredder 9.1 finds it faster - please demostrate.  On my machine
>Shredder switches off after 15 ply and it does' back (alowwed 10 minutes). You
>should try to stay more on-point with your replies ;>)
>

I don't want to put too much effort into this, since my goal isn't to criticize
crafty.  I certainly hope Bob is making good progress.

Shredder finds the alternative solution, Nd2, which both Shredder and Rybka show
is drawn.  Rybka finds Bxf5 in about 11 sec.  Amateur takes 2:30 to find Bxf5.
Other progs perform similarly.  Your test position is therefore flawed in two
respects: it has an alternate solution, and other progs find your solution much
faster.

While it is admirable that crafty can find a solution almost as fast as amateur,
I don't think it supports your thesis.

Will



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