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Subject: Re: Testposition

Author: M Hurd

Date: 00:00:11 02/22/06

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On February 22, 2006 at 01:24:06, Eelco de Groot wrote:

>I think this position is a bit unclear. Shredder at 16 ply only gave +0.33 for
>Bg5, then fail-high and fail-low. The result could be of some theorethical
>importance, see my post below
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?488487 But; do other programs
>also play 22.Bg5 and do they give a big advantage for White?
>
>[D]rnbq2k1/4r1p1/p2b1nQB/1BpP4/7N/1P4P1/P4P1P/2K1R2R w - -
>
>Engine: Shredder 9 UCI (200 MB, Athlon 2009 MHz)
>gemaakt door Stefan Meyer-Kahlen
>
>17     22:27  +1.02    22.Bg5 Rxe1+ 23.Rxe1 Qa5 24.Kd1 (666.458.223) 494
>
>17     26:04  +0.43    22.Bd3 Raa7 23.Kb1 Qe8 24.Qxe8+ Rxe8
>                       25.Rxe8+ Nxe8 (766.596.712) 489
>
>17     26:00  +0.38    22.Bc4 Raa7 23.f3 Qa5 24.Rxe7 Rxe7
>                       25.Kb1 Re1+ 26.Rxe1 Qxe1+ 27.Bc1 Qe5
>                       28.a3 Qe8 29.Qxe8+ Nxe8 30.Bb2 Nc7 (764.642.249) 489
>
> Eelco

Hello Eelco

Fritz 9 and Rybka seem to like Bg5

New game - Junior 9
rnbq2k1/4r1p1/p2b1nQB/1BpP4/7N/1P4P1/P4P1P/2K1R2R w - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 9:

1.Bxa6 Rxa6 2.Nf5 Bxf5
  -+  (-2.37)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  1kN
1.Be2 Nxd5 2.Bd3
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  1kN
1.Bd3 Nbd7
  ±  (0.99)   Depth: 3   00:00:00  2kN
1.Bd3 Qe8 2.Rxe7 Qxe7 3.Bc4
  ²  (0.60)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  42kN
1.Bc4 Bh3 2.Rxe7 Qxe7 3.Kb1
  ±  (0.82)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  56kN
1.Rxe7 Qxe7 2.Bd3 Bd7 3.Nf5 Bxf5 4.Bxf5 Nxd5
  ±  (0.94)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  75kN
1.Rxe7 Qxe7 2.Bd3 Qf7 3.Be3 Bb7 4.Qxf7+ Kxf7 5.Bg6+ Kg8
  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  377kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Kb1 Be5 3.Nf3 Qxd5 4.Nxe5
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  774kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Nf5 Bxf5 3.Bxf5 Qe8 4.Qxe8+ Rxe8 5.Rxe8+ Nxe8 6.Be6+ Kh7 7.Be3 Nd7
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 12   00:00:05  10007kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Nf5 Bxf5 3.Bxf5 Qa5 4.Be6+ Rxe6 5.Rxe6 Qxa2 6.Rd1
  ±  (0.88)   Depth: 14   00:00:22  42207kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Bd2 Nbd7 3.Rxe7 Qxe7 4.Nf5 Ne5 5.Nxe7+ Rxe7 6.Bf4 Nxg6 7.Bxd6 Rd7
8.Bb8 Ne7 9.d6
  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 16   00:03:32  398669kN
1.Bc4 Raa7 2.Bf4 a5 3.Rxe7 Rxe7 4.Bxd6 Qxd6 5.Kb1 a4 6.Rc1 axb3
  ²  (0.46)   Depth: 16   00:06:40  751497kN

New game - Rybka 1.01, 120'/40+60'/20+30'
rnbq2k1/4r1p1/p2b1nQB/1BpP4/7N/1P4P1/P4P1P/2K1R2R w - - 0 1

Analysis by Rybka 1.01 Beta 13d 32-bit:

1.Bd3
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1.Bd3
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
1.Bd3 Raa7
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
1.Bd3 Rb7 2.Nf5
  ²  (0.58)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  24kN
1.Bd3 Rb7 2.Nf5 Bxf5
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 7   00:00:01  42kN
1.Bd3 Rb7 2.Nf5 Bxf5 3.Bxf5 c4
  ²  (0.45)   Depth: 8   00:00:02  66kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Bd2 Be5 3.Qg5 Bd4
  ²  (0.32)   Depth: 9   00:00:07  237kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Bd2 Be5 3.Qg5 Bd4 4.Ng6
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 10   00:00:16  539kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Bd2 c4 3.Bxc4 Qb6 4.Nf5 Bxf5
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 11   00:00:31  1016kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Nf5 Bxf5 3.Bxf5 Nbd7 4.Be6+ Kh8 5.Bg5 Nf8 6.Qf5
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 12   00:01:22  2540kN
1.Bg5 Rxe1+ 2.Rxe1 axb5 3.Bxf6 Qxf6 4.Re8+ Bf8 5.Qxf6 gxf6 6.Rxc8 Kf7 7.Nf5 Rxa2
  ±  (1.01)   Depth: 12   00:02:03  3756kN
1.Bg5 Rxe1+ 2.Rxe1 axb5 3.Bxf6 Qxf6 4.Re8+ Bf8 5.Qxf6 gxf6 6.Rxc8 Kf7 7.Nf5 Rxa2
  ±  (1.07)   Depth: 13   00:02:38  4913kN
1.Bg5 Rxe1+ 2.Rxe1 axb5 3.Bxf6 Qxf6 4.Re8+ Bf8 5.Qxf6 gxf6 6.Rxc8 Kf7 7.Nf5 Rxa2
  ±  (1.31)   Depth: 14   00:04:13  7923kN
1.Bg5 Rxe1+ 2.Rxe1 axb5 3.Bxf6 Qxf6 4.Re8+ Bf8 5.Qxf6 gxf6 6.Rxc8 Kf7 7.Nf5 c4
  ±  (1.01)   Depth: 15   00:06:27  11792kN

New game - Fritz 9, 120'/40+60'/20+30'
rnbq2k1/4r1p1/p2b1nQB/1BpP4/7N/1P4P1/P4P1P/2K1R2R w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 9:

1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Bg5 Rxe1+ 3.Rxe1 Re7 4.Rxe7 Qxe7 5.Nf3
  =  (0.04)   Depth: 7/25   00:00:00  96kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Nf5 Bxf5 3.Bxf5 Qa5 4.Be6+ Kh8 5.Bg5 Be5 6.Kb1
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 8/26   00:00:00  296kN
1.Bd3 c4 2.Bxc4 Bg4 3.f4 Raa7 4.Bg5 Bh5 5.Qf5
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 9/31   00:00:01  982kN
1.Bd3--
  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:04  3938kN
1.Bd3 Raa7 2.Nf5
  =  (-0.07)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:05  4319kN
1.Bc4!
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:05  4828kN
1.Bc4!
  =  (0.09)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:06  5366kN
1.Bc4 Raa7 2.Bg5 Rxe1+ 3.Rxe1 Re7 4.Re3 Qe8 5.Nf5 Qxg6
  =  (0.23)   Depth: 10/34   00:00:07  6374kN
1.Bc4 Raa7 2.Bd2 Rxe1+ 3.Rxe1 Nbd7 4.f4 Nf8 5.Qc2 Bb8 6.Qd3 Re7
  =  (0.09)   Depth: 11/37   00:00:11  9596kN
1.Bc4 Raa7 2.Bd2 Rxe1+ 3.Rxe1 Nbd7 4.f4 Nf8 5.Qg5 N8h7 6.Qg6 Nf8
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/37   00:00:20  18517kN
1.Bg5!
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 12/43   00:00:33  31260kN
1.Bg5!
  =  (0.16)   Depth: 12/43   00:00:33  31747kN
1.Bg5!
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 12/43   00:00:35  33895kN
1.Bg5!
  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 13/42   00:01:02  60859kN
1.Bg5 Qf8 2.Bd3 c4 3.Bxc4 Raa7 4.f4 Rf7 5.Nf3 Bb4 6.Re2 Bc3 7.Ne5 Qa3+ 8.Kb1
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 14/42   00:01:40  101366kN
1.Bg5 Qf8 2.Bd3 c4 3.Bxf6 cxd3 4.Bxe7 Bxe7 5.d6 d2+ 6.Kxd2 Qxf2+ 7.Kc1 Bf8 8.Qe4
  ±  (1.08)   Depth: 15/43   00:03:58  247983kN
1.Bg5!
  ±  (1.36)   Depth: 16/49   00:08:20  525978kN

Regards

Mike



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