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Subject: Re: {Why I think it is important...}

Author: Andrew Dados

Date: 13:13:04 02/22/06

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On February 22, 2006 at 15:47:31, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 22, 2006 at 15:45:12, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>It would be nice to know if a particular opening position underperforms or
>>overperforms.
>>
>>By that I mean, given the Elo of the players that reached the position, and the
>>Elo of the opponents that reached the position, did the position for the side to
>>move exceed expectations or fall below expectations?
>>
>>I don't think it is as simple as taking the average Elo of the side to move and
>>the average Elo of the opponent side, and then examining the win percentage and
>>seeing if it meets the Elo estimate within error bounds.
>>
>>I guess that we would have to examine all of the pairs.
>>
>>Does any statisical genius have a solid model for this analysis?
>
>Suppose that we have some opening position and it scores 40%.  Sounds pretty
>bad.
>
>But now suppose that the position has 100 games and is always played by an
>engine 400 Elo below the opponent.  In this case, instead of underperforming it
>is overperforming stupendously.  Just looking at won/loss/draw is not nearly
>good enough.


Now suppose some highly tactical opening gets 50% for ratings around 2200 but
35% for 2600+. Just to note one needs to be careful with statistics here. But
anyhow the idea is interesting.

On a related note - years ago I wrote simple perl script to calculate percentage
of draws depending on avg opponent rating as well as on rating difference and
results were interesting. So bad I lost that script.

-Andrew-



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