Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 13:41:20 02/22/06
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On February 22, 2006 at 16:24:08, Fernando Villegas wrote: >I understand your feelings, but let me do a couple of reflexions. >First, It is not clear to me that every post -or almost- by Rolf has as a target >to disturb the peace. he is not doing it by will. he cannot do any other way. ed schroeder gave a good explanation. he has not the capability to do or say anything that FITS into the group. he is a non group individual. i do not think he is doing it by will. imo it is part of his desease (he will of course never say that he is ill. he believes his behaviour is normal and that we should have to tolerate him. he believes HIS behaviour is NORMAL and that i am the psychopath. but he does not [never] understand that then all the others [frickenschmidt, schröder, hyatt, faber, gillgasch, berger, herttrich, ... ] are from HIS point of view psychopaths too.) thats his dilemma. he can and will never understand his own problems. he is not capable to see himself from a distance. any normal person has the capability to consider point of views, to evaluate from a different point of view. but not him. no mad person is capable to see himself with the eyes of all the others. >Which peace, to begin with? Besides I am not sure even how >this can be produced individually, as much nobody is compeled to read, neither >to answer a post, but so and only so peace can be disturbed. look at his headline. he chooses a topic from which he knows it will hurt to people. he is happy when 2o or 10 people feel attacked and answer his stalking posting. then he has the chance to ANSWER the 10 people. he is completely under adrenalin when people answer him. mostly they say:piss off, but he doesn't matter. he like it. why ? because its the moment when the eyes of the others are focussed on him. he has no clue about the fact that WE do not like to talk with him, and only doing it because he disturbs us. he believes we would enjoy talking with him. he even believes we would think he is intelligent. >For the same reason, and second, the example you give is not good. >The guy in the party cannot be avoided. exactly. rolf tueschen cannot be avoided. he stops us from doing computerchess for 10 years. we tried everything. but he always comes back. and not that he comes and READS, he even posts attacking nonsense. he cannot be avoided or tolerated other than throwing him out. >If he yells or throw a bottle and rape a >guest you cannot but see, feel, listen him. Here is not so. If you consider >someone is a cause of problems, you just does not read his posts and that's it. you will find 20 people who know him and who will NOT feed the troll. but you will find 10 others who are new and they will feed him. it was the same in RGCC. although we made BIG postings where we explained who he is and what he is doing and that one should not discuss with him, the people did and BIG threats happened and suddenly we were only discussing KZ and NAZI and Eichmann and little hitlers and and and, rolf here and rolf there and he is the pope and he is the best statistic and he is the best soandso, and not computerchess. the main focus suddenly was not on rybka or fritz or shredder or hiarcs, the main focus was on rolf tueschen. i have no problem if he begins a forum , lets say the rolf tueschen forum. and there he can talk with his guests about his blablabla. but i have something against him changing this forum into a special rolf tueschen club. i am in no way interested in his blablablabla. >My point is that we should have more wisdom and of course the advice goes also >for me, because I have fell also in wars due to the temptation to answer. >Nevertheless, the path is simply not to have interactions with people we do not >understand mutually. >If that happens between you and Rolf, you just ignore him. >My best >fernando no. the ignore and tolerate time is over. its enough. 10 years are enough.
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