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Subject: Re: Which engine can solve this one ?

Author: Bernhard Bauer
Date: 04:06:57 02/24/06
Crafty gives 1.c5 dxc5
Why not      1.c5 bxc5   ?
After 1. ..bxc5 I cannot see a win for white.

Has anyone a good line for white after 1. ..bxc5?

Bernhard


On February 24, 2006 at 06:05:56, Mike Byrne wrote:

>On February 24, 2006 at 02:16:19, phili_ppe wrote:
>
>>[D]2k5/p7/Pp1p1b2/1P1P1p2/2P2P1p/3K3P/5B2/8 w - - bm c5; id "LCTFIN08 (c5!)"
>
>FEN: 2k5/p7/Pp1p1b2/1P1P1p2/2P2P1p/3K3P/5B2/8 w - - 0 1
>FEN: 2k5/p7/Pp1p1b2/1P1P1p2/2P2P1p/3K3P/5B2/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Crafty-20.3:
>   1	00:00	          47	47	+1.18	1.Bd4
>   1	00:00	          62	62	+1.18	1.Bd4
>   2	00:00	          82	82	+1.26	1.Bd4 Bxd4 2.Kxd4
>   2	00:00	         111	111	+1.26	1.Bd4 Bxd4 2.Kxd4
>   3	00:00	         155	155	+1.26	1.Bd4 Bxd4 2.Kxd4
>   3	00:00	         228	228	+1.26	1.Bd4 Bxd4 2.Kxd4
>   4	00:00	         430	430	+1.13	1.Bd4 Be7 2.Kc3 Kc7
>   4	00:00	         565	565	+1.13	1.Bd4 Be7 2.Kc3 Kc7
>   5	00:00	         790	790	+1.02	1.Bd4 Bxd4 2.Kxd4 Kc7 3.Kc3
>   5	00:00	       1.369	1.369	+1.06	1.Be3 Kc7 2.Bd4 Bxd4 3.Kxd4
>   5	00:00	       1.905	1.905	+1.06	1.Be3 Kc7 2.Bd4 Bxd4 3.Kxd4
>   6	00:00	       2.347	2.347	+1.13	1.Be3 Kc7 2.Bd4 Be7 3.Kc3 Kb8
>   6	00:00	       2.930	2.930	+1.13	1.Be3 Kc7 2.Bd4 Be7 3.Kc3 Kb8
>   7	00:00	       3.633	3.633	+1.02	1.Be3 Kc7 2.Bd4 Bxd4 3.Kxd4 Kb8 4.Kc3
>   7	00:00	       5.359	267.950	+1.06	1.Be1 Kc7 2.Bc3 Bxc3 3.Kxc3 Kb8 4.Kd4
>   7	00:00	       6.196	309.800	+1.06	1.Be1 Kc7 2.Bc3 Bxc3 3.Kxc3 Kb8 4.Kd4
>   8	00:00	       8.062	403.100	+1.13	1.Be1 Kc7 2.Bc3 Be7 3.Bd4 Kb8 4.Kc3 Kc7
>   8	00:00	      12.916	645.800	+1.15	1.Bd4 Be7 2.Kc2 Kb8 3.Kb3 Kc7 4.Kc3
>   8	00:00	      13.807	690.350	+1.15	1.Bd4 Be7 2.Kc2 Kb8 3.Kb3 Kc7 4.Kc3
>   9	00:00	      16.144	807.200	+1.06	1.Bd4 Bxd4 2.Kxd4 Kb8 3.Kc3 Kc7 4.Kd3 Kb8
>5.Kd4
>   9	00:00	      21.310	1.065.500	+1.06	1.Bd4 Bxd4 2.Kxd4 Kb8 3.Kc3 Kc7 4.Kd3
>Kb8 5.Kd4
>  10	00:00	      22.531	1.126.550	+1.02	1.Bd4 Bxd4 2.Kxd4 Kb8 3.Kc3 Kc7 4.Kb4
>Kb8 5.Kb3 Kc7
>  10	00:00	      33.813	1.690.650	+1.13	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3
>  10	00:00	      44.433	1.481.100	+1.13	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Kb8 6.Kd3 Kc8 7.Kc3
>  11	00:00	      52.456	1.748.533	+1.06	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Kb8 6.Kd4
>  11	00:00	      73.643	2.454.766	+1.06	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Kb8 6.Kd4
>  12	00:00	      87.012	1.740.240	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Kc8 6.Kd4 Kb8 7.Kc3 Kc7 8.Kb4 Kb8 9.Kb3
>  12	00:00	     131.487	2.191.450	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Kc8 6.Kd4 Kb8 7.Kc3 Kc7 8.Kb4 Kb8 9.Kb3
>  13	00:00	     146.589	2.443.150	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Kc8 6.Kd4 Kb8 7.Kc3
>  13	00:00	     211.265	2.112.650	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Kc8 6.Kd4 Kb8 7.Kc3
>  14	00:00	     226.475	2.264.750	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Kc8 6.Kd4 Kb8 7.Kc3 Kc7
>  14	00:00	     311.241	2.394.161	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kc7 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Kc8 6.Kd4 Kb8 7.Kc3 Kc7
>  15	00:00	     340.621	2.433.007	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kb8 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Ka8 6.Kb4 Kb8 7.Kb3 Kc7 8.Kc3
>  15	00:00	     497.620	2.369.619	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kb8 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Ka8 6.Kb4 Kb8 7.Kb3 Kc7 8.Kc3
>  16	00:00	     541.253	2.460.240	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kb8 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Ka8 6.Kb4 Kb8 7.Kb3 Kc8 8.Kc3 Kc7
>  16	00:00	   1.096.160	2.491.272	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kb8 4.Bc3 Bxc3
>5.Kxc3 Ka8 6.Kb4 Kb8 7.Kb3 Kc8 8.Kc3 Kc7
>  17	00:00	   1.165.318	2.479.400	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kd7 4.Ba5 Kc7
>5.Bd2 Ba1 6.Kc2 Bf6 7.Bb4 Ba1 8.Bc3 Bxc3 9.Kxc3
>  17	00:00	   1.453.096	2.421.826	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kd7 4.Ba5 Kc7
>5.Bd2 Ba1 6.Kc2 Bf6 7.Bb4 Ba1 8.Bc3 Bxc3 9.Kxc3
>  18	00:00	   1.554.972	2.468.209	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kd7 4.Ba5 Kc7
>5.Bd2 Ba1 6.Kc2 Bf6 7.Bb4 Kd7 8.Bc3 Bxc3 9.Kxc3 Kc7
>  18	00:02	   4.456.001	2.434.973	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kd7 4.Ba5 Kc7
>5.Bd2 Ba1 6.Kc2 Bf6 7.Bb4 Kd7 8.Bc3 Bxc3 9.Kxc3 Kc7
>  19	00:02	   4.827.013	2.425.634	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kd7 4.Ba5 Kc7
>5.Bd2 Ba1 6.Kc2 Bf6 7.Bb4 Ba1 8.Be1 Bf6 9.Bc3 Bxc3 10.Kxc3
>  19	00:03	   6.798.984	2.428.208	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kd7 4.Ba5 Kc7
>5.Bd2 Ba1 6.Kc2 Bf6 7.Bb4 Ba1 8.Be1 Bf6 9.Bc3 Bxc3 10.Kxc3
>  20	00:03	   7.284.854	2.428.284	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kd7 4.Ba5 Kc7
>5.Bd2 Ba1 6.Bc3 Bxc3 7.Kxc3 Kc8 8.Kd4 Kc7 9.Kd3 Kd7 10.Kc3 Kc7
>  20	00:04	  10.820.317	2.199.251	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kd7 4.Ba5 Kc7
>5.Bd2 Ba1 6.Bc3 Bxc3 7.Kxc3 Kc8 8.Kd4 Kc7 9.Kd3 Kd7 10.Kc3 Kc7
>  21	00:05	  12.259.323	2.261.867	+1.02	1.Ke3 Be7 2.Be1 Bf6 3.Kd3 Kd7 4.Ba5 Kc7
>5.Bd2 Kb8 6.Kc2 Kc7 7.Bb4 Kd7 8.Be1 Kc8 9.Kb3 Kc7 10.Bc3 Bxc3 11.Kxc3
>  21	00:18	  42.958.911	2.386.606	+1.42	1.c5
>  21	00:31	  71.503.254	2.306.556	+1.27	1.c5 bxc5 2.Be1 Kc7 3.Ba5+ Kc8 4.b6 axb6
>5.Bxb6 Kb8 6.Kc4 Bd4 7.Kb5 Be3 8.Bd8 Bxf4 9.Bxh4 Ka7 10.Bf6 Bg3 11.h4 c4
>  21	00:34	  77.764.603	2.287.194	+1.27	1.c5 bxc5 2.Be1 Kc7 3.Ba5+ Kc8 4.b6 axb6
>5.Bxb6 Kb8 6.Kc4 Bd4 7.Kb5 Be3 8.Bd8 Bxf4 9.Bxh4 Ka7 10.Bf6 Bg3 11.h4 c4
>  22	00:54	 125.093.001	2.316.537	+1.33	1.c5 dxc5 2.d6 Kd7 3.Kc4 Ke6 4.Bxc5 Bd8
>5.Bb4 Bf6 6.Ba3 Bd8 7.Kd3 Bf6 8.Bc5 Bd8 9.Bb4 Kd5 10.Kc3 Ke4 11.Kc4 Kxf4
>  22	00:59	 135.907.452	2.303.516	+1.33	1.c5 dxc5 2.d6 Kd7 3.Kc4 Ke6 4.Bxc5 Bd8
>5.Bb4 Bf6 6.Ba3 Bd8 7.Kd3 Bf6 8.Bc5 Bd8 9.Bb4 Kd5 10.Kc3 Ke4 11.Kc4 Kxf4
>  23	01:28	 199.904.203	2.271.638	+1.57	1.c5 dxc5 2.d6 Kd7 3.Kc4 Ke6 4.Bxc5 Bd8
>5.Bd4 Kxd6 6.Be5+ Ke6 7.Bb8 Kd7 8.Kd5 Bf6 9.Be5 Be7 10.Bd4 Kc7 11.Ke5 Ba3
>12.Kxf5 Bd6
>  23	01:35	 216.636.636	2.280.385	+1.57	1.c5 dxc5 2.d6 Kd7 3.Kc4 Ke6 4.Bxc5 Bd8
>5.Bd4 Kxd6 6.Be5+ Ke6 7.Bb8 Kd7 8.Kd5 Bf6 9.Be5 Be7 10.Bd4 Kc7 11.Ke5 Ba3
>12.Kxf5 Bd6
Re: Which engine can solve this one ? Ignacio Santos Crespo 06:22:28 02/24/06
- Re: Which engine can solve this one ? Bernhard Bauer 07:32:06 02/24/06
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