Author: Chris Fieberg
Date: 12:58:09 02/24/06
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On February 24, 2006 at 15:31:47, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>On February 24, 2006 at 15:30:15, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On February 24, 2006 at 15:00:06, Chris Fieberg wrote:
>>
>>>On February 24, 2006 at 14:52:05, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>Which would not have played Rybka is importantly here, since each game is
>>>>another, and Rybkas Analyses are other as when Rybka play!
>>>
>>>Do you think it would be possible to use your concept also against Rybka? I
>>>suppose it would be at least much harder.
>
>Are you a Rybka Fanatiker?
Why do you ask?
My question is: "Do you think it would be possible to use your concept also
against Rybka?"
I ask you because you are - in my view - an expert in playing successfully
against computers. I know a lot of your games and you are quite creative in your
strategies / concepts against the engines. Thus I am interested how you view
Rybka. Have you already tried to win against Rybka with your special strategies.
What is your experience?
>Can we talk not also about something else than about which became Rybka? :-((
Why should we? ;-)
>
>That is pure speculation!
That's why I ask whether you have experience with Rybka.
I once managed to draw in a 3 minute game vs Ryka (Rybka had 3 minutes - I had
as much time as I wanted).
Here the game:
[Event "Blitz:3'"]
[Date "2006.01.06"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fieberg, Christoph"]
[Black "Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "A45"]
{32MB, 2550+.ctg, Pentium IV, 2 GHz} 1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]
} 2. Bf4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} c5 {[%eval 3,9] [%emt 0:00:06]} 3. d5 {[%emt 0:00:02]
} Qb6 {[%eval 3,9] [%emt 0:00:03]} 4. b3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Qb4+ {
[%eval -17,9] [%emt 0:00:05]} 5. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:09]} Qd4 {
[%eval -6,12] [%emt 0:00:05]} 6. Bc3 {[%emt 0:00:15]} Qxd1+ {
[%eval -78,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} 7. Kxd1 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nxd5 {
[%eval -83,11] [%emt 0:00:06]} 8. Bb2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Nf6 {
[%eval -84,11] [%emt 0:00:09]} 9. c4 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Nc6 {
[%eval -111,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} 10. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} d6 {
[%eval -98,9] [%emt 0:00:04]} 11. e4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nd4 {
[%eval -105,9] [%emt 0:00:05]} 12. f3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} e5 {
[%eval -123,9] [%emt 0:00:03]} 13. Nd5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Nxd5 {
[%eval -135,9] [%emt 0:00:01]} 14. exd5 {[%emt 0:00:06]} Bf5 {
[%eval -153,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} 15. Kd2 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Be7 {
[%eval -151,9] [%emt 0:00:04]} 16. Re1 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Bg5+ {
[%eval -225,9] [%emt 0:00:04]} 17. Kc3 {[%emt 0:00:11]} Nc2 {
[%eval -215,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} 18. Re2 {[%emt 0:00:09]} Nb4 {
[%eval -229,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} 19. Ba3 {[%emt 0:00:07]} Bd3 {
[%eval -216,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} 20. Rf2 {[%emt 0:00:16]} Be3 {
[%eval -291,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} 21. Bxb4 {[%emt 0:00:19]} cxb4+ {
[%eval -317,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} 22. Kxb4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} a5+ {
[%eval -320,9] [%emt 0:00:03]} 23. Kc3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Bxc4 {
[%eval -314,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} 24. Bxc4 {[%emt 0:00:08]} Bxf2 {
[%eval -334,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} 25. Ne2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rc8 {
[%eval -331,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} 26. a4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Ke7 {
[%eval -327,8] [%emt 0:00:02]} 27. g4 {[%emt 0:00:05]} h5 {
[%eval -368,8] [%emt 0:00:03]} 28. g5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} f6 {
[%eval -359,8] [%emt 0:00:03]} 29. f4 {[%emt 0:00:37]} Rhf8 {
[%eval -353,8] [%emt 0:00:03]} 30. g6 {[%emt 0:00:05]} h4 {
[%eval -349,8] [%emt 0:00:02]} 31. f5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Rh8 {
[%eval -382,9] [%emt 0:00:02]} 32. Rf1 {[%emt 0:00:13]} Bb6 {
[%eval -373,10] [%emt 0:00:03]} 33. h3 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Rh5 {
[%eval -385,12] [%emt 0:00:02]} 34. Kd3 {[%emt 0:00:36]} Rg5 {
[%eval -402,11] [%emt 0:00:02]} 35. Rf3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rg2 {
[%eval -451,11] [%emt 0:00:02]} 36. Bb5 {[%emt 0:00:24]} Rf2 {
[%eval -432,11] [%emt 0:00:02]} 37. Rxf2 {[%emt 0:00:12]} Bxf2 {
[%eval -430,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 38. Bc4 {[%emt 0:00:09]} Bb6 {
[%eval -438,11] [%emt 0:00:02]} 39. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bc5 {
[%eval -434,12] [%emt 0:00:02]} 40. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:45]} Bd4 {
[%eval -428,12] [%emt 0:00:03]} 41. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Bf2 {
[%eval -430,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} 42. Kf3 {[%emt 0:00:06]} Be1 {
[%eval -448,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 43. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Bb4 {
[%eval -436,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} 44. Kf3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Kd7 {
[%eval -435,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 45. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Rh8 {
[%eval -429,11] [%emt 0:00:02]} 46. Be2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rf8 {
[%eval -429,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 47. Kf3 {[%emt 0:00:18]} Rc8 {
[%eval -442,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} 48. Bc4 {[%emt 0:00:04]} Ke7 {
[%eval -430,11] [%emt 0:00:02]} 49. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Be1 {
[%eval -428,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} 50. Ke3 {[%emt 0:00:54]} Rc5 {
[%eval -430,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} 51. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:09]} Bd2 {
[%eval -431,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} 52. Kf3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Bb4 {
[%eval -429,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 53. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Be1 {
[%eval -428,13] [%emt 0:00:02]} 54. Kf3 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Kd7 {
[%eval -419,13] [%emt 0:00:03]} 55. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Bd2 {
[%eval -428,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} 56. Kf3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc8 {
[%eval -429,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} 57. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Ke7 {
[%eval -431,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 58. Kd3 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Bc1 {
[%eval -430,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 59. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bg5 {
[%eval -425,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 60. Kd3 {[%emt 0:00:05]} Bf4 {
[%eval -428,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} 61. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bc1 {
[%eval -425,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 62. Kd3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kd7 {
[%eval -429,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} 63. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bb2 {
[%eval -427,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} 64. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Ra8 {
[%eval -426,9] [%emt 0:00:01]} 65. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rh8 {
[%eval -426,9] [%emt 0:00:01]} 66. Be2 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rc8 {
[%eval -426,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 67. Bc4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Bc1 {
[%eval -416,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} 68. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rc5 {
[%eval -422,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} 69. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bg5 {
[%eval -413,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 70. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rc7 {
[%eval -425,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 71. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc8 {
[%eval -422,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} 72. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc5 {
[%eval -425,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 73. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ke7 {
[%eval -418,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} 74. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Bf4 {
[%eval -418,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} 75. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bh6 {
[%eval -420,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 76. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kd7 {
[%eval -422,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 77. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc8 {
[%eval -420,11] [%emt 0:00:01]} 78. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ra8 {
[%eval -421,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} 79. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bd2 {
[%eval -416,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 80. Kd3 {[%emt 0:00:10]} Bb4 {
[%eval -428,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} 81. Ke4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rg8 {
[%eval -430,9] [%emt 0:00:01]} 82. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Kc7 {
[%eval -429,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} 83. Nb5+ {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kd8 {
[%eval -422,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} 84. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rf8 {
[%eval -429,10] [%emt 0:00:01]} 85. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kd7 {
[%eval -409,9] [%emt 0:00:01]} 86. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rg8 {
[%eval -420,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 87. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} b6 {
[%eval -388,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} 88. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Bd2 {
[%eval -382,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 89. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rc8 {
[%eval -412,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 90. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} Rc5 {
[%eval -407,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 91. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bg5 {
[%eval -410,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 92. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Kd8 {
[%eval -401,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 93. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ke7 {
[%eval -404,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 94. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kd7 {
[%eval -401,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 95. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bh6 {
[%eval -405,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 96. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bc1 {
[%eval -401,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 97. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bd2 {
[%eval -404,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 98. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bh6 {
[%eval -401,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 99. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bc1 {
[%eval -398,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 100. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kd8 {
[%eval -401,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 101. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ke7 {
[%eval -385,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 102. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bb2 {
[%eval -382,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 103. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kd7 {
[%eval -400,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 104. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bd4 {
[%eval -398,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 105. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bg1 {
[%eval -401,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 106. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bf2 {
[%eval -403,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 107. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Be1 {
[%eval -404,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 108. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bg3 {
[%eval -401,6] [%emt 0:00:00]} 109. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ke7 {
[%eval -401,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 110. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bf4 {
[%eval -403,3] [%emt 0:00:00]} 111. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bd2 {
[%eval -406,6] [%emt 0:00:00]} 112. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kd8 {
[%eval -401,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 113. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bb4 {
[%eval -240,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 114. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Kd7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 115. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc8 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 116. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 117. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc5 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 118. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bc3 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 119. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ba1 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 120. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bb2 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 121. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc8 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 122. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 123. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rb7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 124. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:11]} Rb8 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 125. Bc4 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Re8 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 126. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc8 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 127. Bc4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bc1 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 128. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rc7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 129. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rb7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 130. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rb8 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 131. Bc4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bd2 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 132. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rh8 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 133. Be2 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Bf4 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 134. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:02]} Rc8 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 135. Bc4 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Ke7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 136. Na7 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc7 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 137. Nb5 {[%emt 0:00:01]} Rc5 {
[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 1/2-1/2
>Do we talk now about spike, OK?
Tell me more about spike if you want. I do not know this engine.
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