Author: Ryan B.
Date: 13:51:38 02/24/06
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On February 24, 2006 at 15:20:29, Mike S. wrote: >First, I want to mention that I already have written a mail using the moderator >form - NOT related to any personal conflict or arguing or the like - but I think >the matter needs to be clarified because the response i got so far, clearly is >not sufficient. > >What is a clone? > >IMO the wording "clone" suggests that something incorrect or even illegal is >going on. It describes software which incorrectly consists of parts for which no >permission from the original author has been given, for use in another program >released by somebody else. > >Using "clone" to describe an engine clearly discredits the programmer. An engine >created and distributed correctly, is not a clone. This matter has been >intensively discussed and explained in the past, and it is clear that Toga II >1.x is a correct and legal open source engine, based on o.s. Fruit 2.1. >Therefore, the wording "clone" is not acceptable here. > >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?489033 > >I expect from the other moderators, to make this clear in CCC public. I expect >that programmers correctly participating in open source chess engine projects, >are treated fair and that the software they release, are not called clones. > >This is NOT about if an engine can play in some tournament or not, by it's rules >each. I'm not interested in that, but in avoiding public wording in CCC which >discredits someone in inacceptable manner! > >This is not a matter of taste nor just my private opinion. Again, I point the >moderators to the fact that "clone" cleary is a discrediting, incriminating >word! > >Thanks, >M.Scheidl I did not know clone was a bad word. I did Gambit Fruit and I call it a clone. Legal clone that respects the true author but still a clone. I would of course prefer people test engines like Scorpio and Glaurung before Gambit Fruit because they are original works that took a lot more effort than I use on Gambit Fruit (the point of Gambit Fruit was not strength anyway, it was to test ideas in a strong open source engine.) I think many people misunderstand the difference in work required to write a chess program and to modify one. I mean no disrespect to Thomas (or myself) as I feel like he agrees with this and I feel like any open source contribution is positive as he has done with Toga. Ryan
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