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Subject: Re: Moderation team statement required.

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 13:55:17 02/24/06

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Hi Dann,

On February 24, 2006 at 16:46:22, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On February 24, 2006 at 15:39:34, M Hurd wrote:
>
>>On February 24, 2006 at 15:20:29, Mike S. wrote:
>>
>>>First, I want to mention that I already have written a mail using the moderator
>>>form - NOT related to any personal conflict or arguing or the like - but I think
>>>the matter needs to be clarified because the response i got so far, clearly is
>>>not sufficient.
>>>
>>>What is a clone?
>>>
>>>IMO the wording "clone" suggests that something incorrect or even illegal is
>>>going on. It describes software which incorrectly consists of parts for which no
>>>permission from the original author has been given, for use in another program
>>>released by somebody else.
>>>
>>>Using "clone" to describe an engine clearly discredits the programmer. An engine
>>>created and distributed correctly, is not a clone. This matter has been
>>>intensively discussed and explained in the past, and it is clear that Toga II
>>>1.x is a correct and legal open source engine, based on o.s. Fruit 2.1.
>>>Therefore, the wording "clone" is not acceptable here.
>>>
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?489033
>>>
>>>I expect from the other moderators, to make this clear in CCC public. I expect
>>>that programmers correctly participating in open source chess engine projects,
>>>are treated fair and that the software they release, are not called clones.
>>>
>>>This is NOT about if an engine can play in some tournament or not, by it's rules
>>>each. I'm not interested in that, but in avoiding public wording in CCC which
>>>discredits someone in inacceptable manner!
>>>
>>>This is not a matter of taste nor just my private opinion. Again, I point the
>>>moderators to the fact that "clone" cleary is a discrediting, incriminating
>>>word!
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>M.Scheidl
>>
>>
>>Clone Definition
>>
>>http://www.bellevuelinux.org/clone.html
>
>If we use that definition, then Toga is not a clone but a copy.
>Clearly, Toga II is chock full of code from Fruit.

Well, Toga is a slightly modified Fruit... but of course with an amazing big
impact to it's playing strength. No doubt about that.
Anyway it is a clone at least according to my definition.

Greets, Thomas



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