Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:29:04 02/24/06
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On February 24, 2006 at 15:20:29, Mike S. wrote: >First, I want to mention that I already have written a mail using the moderator >form - NOT related to any personal conflict or arguing or the like - but I think >the matter needs to be clarified because the response i got so far, clearly is >not sufficient. > >What is a clone? A clone is _any_ program derived mainly from another program. Doesn't matter whether the program is open source, closed source, magic source or what. Doesn't matter if the author of the clone has permission from the author of the original program. Nothing matters. We are using the _same_ rules as the ICGA uses for the WCCC events. Any program derived from another program is termed a "clone" and is not allowed, period... > >IMO the wording "clone" suggests that something incorrect or even illegal is >going on. It describes software which incorrectly consists of parts for which no >permission from the original author has been given, for use in another program >released by somebody else. Doesn't suggest any such thing to "us". It just suggests that the new program is derived principly from an existing program, making the new program a non-unique piece of work. > >Using "clone" to describe an engine clearly discredits the programmer. An engine >created and distributed correctly, is not a clone. This matter has been >intensively discussed and explained in the past, and it is clear that Toga II >1.x is a correct and legal open source engine, based on o.s. Fruit 2.1. >Therefore, the wording "clone" is not acceptable here. Sorry, but it is, has been, and always will be a clone so long as it is derived from Fruit in any fashion... > >http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?489033 > >I expect from the other moderators, to make this clear in CCC public. I expect >that programmers correctly participating in open source chess engine projects, >are treated fair and that the software they release, are not called clones. > >This is NOT about if an engine can play in some tournament or not, by it's rules >each. I'm not interested in that, but in avoiding public wording in CCC which >discredits someone in inacceptable manner! Look up the definition of the word "clone". -> "Copy" is the best word. > >This is not a matter of taste nor just my private opinion. Again, I point the >moderators to the fact that "clone" cleary is a discrediting, incriminating >word! > >Thanks, >M.Scheidl
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