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Subject: Re: How Greedy is your Program? Good Positional Test!

Author: odell hall

Date: 07:59:11 04/16/99

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On April 16, 1999 at 02:59:31, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On April 15, 1999 at 23:15:08, odell hall wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>
>>The below position is taken from the Book Secrets of Chess Analysis by Jan
>>timman.
>>
>>3q1rk1/1p3p2/r2p2pb/P1pP1n1p/2N2P2/1QPP4/6BP/1R3RK1 w - - id Geller - Spaasky;
>>
>>
>>28. Be4!!!  Timman remarks "White appreciates the strength of the strongpoint f5
>>and defers the capture on b7, which would give black the chance for a promising
>>exchange sacrifice.  28. Qxb7, Rxa5 29.Nxa5, Qxa5 and now 29.Qb2(to be able to
>>defend important weak points from d2 or c2).
>>
>>
>>I tested rebel on this position and it simply could not resist the pawn on b7!
>> However hiarcs6 after 82 sec Chose  28. Bh3!! which I think is about the same
>>as Be4.  In my opinion this is a excellent positional test for computer programs
>>to see just how well they understand position. I suspect that only the strongest
>>programs will be able to resist the juicy pawn on B7.  I also Tested MChess 8
>>which chose Be4 after one minute thought and +76 evaluation.
>
>Mine wants to take the pawn, for a really long time.  It'd be interesting to
>know why others don't want to take the pawn, I expect they wouldn't see 28. Qxb7
>Rxa5, but if someone will play that I'd be interested in knowing.
>
>Are other programs simply choosing a different way to win material?
>
>bruce



Hi Bruce



  Neither Hiarcs6 Or Mchess8  seem to see Rxa5!, I think that they both however
appreciate the strongpoint on f5!  After all I think the reasons for Not taking
the pawn are two fold. Ofcourse I could be wrong though. The most dangerous
reason is the Night on F5 as timman notes.



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