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Subject: he meant "clone" sounds nasty. mayb

Author: Mariaclara Benedicto

Date: 11:10:08 02/25/06

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On February 24, 2006 at 22:29:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 24, 2006 at 15:20:29, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>First, I want to mention that I already have written a mail using the moderator
>>form - NOT related to any personal conflict or arguing or the like - but I think
>>the matter needs to be clarified because the response i got so far, clearly is
>>not sufficient.
>>
>>What is a clone?
>
>A clone is _any_ program derived mainly from another program.  Doesn't matter
>whether the program is open source, closed source, magic source or what.
>Doesn't matter if the author of the clone has permission from the author of the
>original program.  Nothing matters.  We are using the _same_ rules as the ICGA
>uses for the WCCC events.  Any program derived from another program is termed a
>"clone" and is not allowed, period...
>
>
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>>IMO the wording "clone" suggests that something incorrect or even illegal is
>>going on. It describes software which incorrectly consists of parts for which no
>>permission from the original author has been given, for use in another program
>>released by somebody else.
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>Doesn't suggest any such thing to "us".  It just suggests that the new program
>is derived principly from an existing program, making the new program a
>non-unique piece of work.
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>
>>
>>Using "clone" to describe an engine clearly discredits the programmer. An engine
>>created and distributed correctly, is not a clone. This matter has been
>>intensively discussed and explained in the past, and it is clear that Toga II
>>1.x is a correct and legal open source engine, based on o.s. Fruit 2.1.
>>Therefore, the wording "clone" is not acceptable here.
>
>Sorry, but it is, has been, and always will be a clone so long as it is derived
>from Fruit in any fashion...
>
>
>>
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?489033
>>
>>I expect from the other moderators, to make this clear in CCC public. I expect
>>that programmers correctly participating in open source chess engine projects,
>>are treated fair and that the software they release, are not called clones.
>>
>>This is NOT about if an engine can play in some tournament or not, by it's rules
>>each. I'm not interested in that, but in avoiding public wording in CCC which
>>discredits someone in inacceptable manner!
>
>Look up the definition of the word "clone".  ->  "Copy" is the best word.
>
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>>
>>This is not a matter of taste nor just my private opinion. Again, I point the
>>moderators to the fact that "clone" cleary is a discrediting, incriminating
>>word!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>M.Scheidl



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