Author: Paulo Cesar Soares
Date: 22:07:30 02/26/06
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On February 27, 2006 at 00:09:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>On February 26, 2006 at 23:57:28, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On February 26, 2006 at 23:50:57, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>
>>>On February 26, 2006 at 23:16:54, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>In the pgn of CCT I find no moves.
>>>>
>>>>Note that I read that fruit lost against zappa by that way but I did not read
>>>>about something strange in the game fruit-hiarcs in this forum.
>>>>
>>>>I also see no moves in zappa-fruit and I guess it cannot be correct because
>>>>zappa did play first move as white.
>>>
>>>Fruit also lost by forfeit to Hiarcs.
>>>
>>>[Event "ICC 50 3 u"]
>>>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>>>[Date "2006.02.26"]
>>>[Round "-"]
>>>[White "FruitCCT8"]
>>>[Black "Hiarcs8x"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>[ICCResult "Game set by TD"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2000"]
>>>[BlackElo "2812"]
>>>[Opening "QGD: Tartakower (Makagonov-Bondarevsky) system"]
>>>[ECO "D58"]
>>>[NIC "QO.10"]
>>>[Time "11:00:37"]
>>>[TimeControl "3000+3"]
>>>
>>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 d5 4. Nc3 Be7 5. Bg5 h6 6. Bh4 O-O 7. e3 b6 8. Be2
>>>Bb7 9. Rc1 Nbd7 10. cxd5 exd5 11. O-O c5 12. Qa4 a6 13. dxc5 bxc5 14. Rfd1
>>>Bd6 15. Nxd5 Bxd5 {Game set by TD} 0-1
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>I wonder what is the reason in that time.
>>I guess it was again some external factor and not bug in the engine.
>>
>>It seems that fruit lost only one game not by some external factors like
>>interface and it was against spike when it was very unlucky
>>
>>As you can see even rybka see nothing here but it seems that black is in serious
>>trouble here based on analysis.
>>
>>Spike - Fruit, ICC 50 3 u Internet Chess Club 2006
>>[D]r4rk1/1b4pp/p2P4/4np2/Ppp4q/4B2P/1PBQ2P1/R4RK1 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Rybka 1.01 Beta 13d 32-bit:
>>
>>25...Be4
>> = (0.20) Depth: 3 00:00:00
>>25...Nd3
>> = (0.08) Depth: 3 00:00:00
>>25...Nd3
>> ² (0.26) Depth: 4 00:00:00
>>25...Nd3 26.Bxd3
>> = (0.08) Depth: 5 00:00:00
>>25...Nd3 26.Bxd3 cxd3 27.Qxd3 Qg3
>> ² (0.42) Depth: 6 00:00:00 16kN
>>25...Be4 26.Bf2 Qh6
>> = (0.00) Depth: 6 00:00:00 20kN
>>25...Be4 26.Bf2 Qh6 27.Be3
>> = (0.00) Depth: 7 00:00:00 33kN
>>25...Be4 26.Bg5 c3 27.Bxh4 cxd2 28.Bb3+ Kh8
>> ± (0.71) Depth: 8 00:00:01 70kN
>>25...Nd3 26.Bxd3 cxd3 27.Qxd3 Qg3 28.Rf2 Rad8
>> ² (0.57) Depth: 8 00:00:01 97kN
>>25...c3 26.bxc3 bxc3 27.Qxc3 Qg3 28.Bb3+ Kh8 29.Ra2
>> = (0.03) Depth: 8 00:00:02 125kN
>>25...c3 26.bxc3 bxc3 27.Qxc3 Qg3 28.Bb3+ Kh8 29.Ra2 Rac8
>> = (0.03) Depth: 9 00:00:04 212kN
>>25...c3 26.bxc3 bxc3 27.Qxc3 Qg3 28.Bb3+ Kh8 29.Ra2 Rab8 30.Raf2
>> = (0.13) Depth: 10 00:00:07 402kN
>>25...c3 26.bxc3 bxc3 27.Qe1 Qxe1 28.Rfxe1 Be4 29.Bd4 Nf7 30.Bxe4
>> = (0.19) Depth: 11 00:00:17 956kN
>>25...c3 26.bxc3 bxc3 27.Qe1 Qxe1 28.Rfxe1 Be4 29.Bd4 Bxc2 30.Bxe5 Rac8
>> ² (0.39) Depth: 12 00:00:35 1957kN
>>25...c3 26.bxc3 bxc3 27.Qe1 Qxe1 28.Rfxe1 Be4 29.Bd4 Bxc2 30.Bxe5 Rac8 31.Rec1
>> = (0.20) Depth: 13 00:01:36 5297kN
>>25...c3 26.bxc3 bxc3 27.Qe1 Qxe1 28.Rfxe1 Be4 29.Bd4 Bxc2 30.Bxe5 Rac8 31.Rec1
>>Be4
>> ² (0.34) Depth: 14 00:02:33 8696kN
>>25...c3 26.bxc3 bxc3 27.Qe1 Qxe1 28.Rfxe1 Be4 29.Bd4 Nf7 30.Bxe4 fxe4 31.d7 Rfd8
>>32.Rxe4
>> = (0.21) Depth: 15 00:07:21 24492kN
>>25...c3 26.bxc3 bxc3 27.Qe1 Qxe1 28.Rfxe1 Be4 29.Bd4 Nf7 30.Bxe4 fxe4 31.d7 Rfd8
>>32.Rxe4
>> = (0.21) Depth: 16 00:12:17 40710kN
>>
>>(, 27.02.2006)
>
>I mean that after 25...c3 black has serious problems.
>Maybe black has good alternative to 25...c3 and I did not check it but every
>alternative later is evaluated by rybka as significant advantage for white so it
>is possible that the losing mistake is very deep to find.
>
>Maybe 27...Qf6 is an improvement but I am not sure about it.
>
>
>
>Uri
It seems to me a hard position to analyse.
Rybka changes the maynline:
New game [D] r4rk1/1b4pp/p2P4/4np2/Ppp4q/4B2P/1PBQ2P1/R4RK1 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Rybka 1.01 Beta 13d 32-bit:
1...Bb7-e4
= (0.20) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1...Ne5-d3
= (0.08) Depth: 3 00:00:00
1...Ne5-d3
² (0.26) Depth: 4 00:00:00
1...Ne5-d3 2.Bc2xd3
= (0.08) Depth: 5 00:00:00
1...Ne5-d3 2.Bc2xd3 c4xd3 3.Qd2xd3 Qh4-g3
² (0.42) Depth: 6 00:00:00 15kN
1...Bb7-e4 2.Be3-f2 Qh4-h6
= (0.00) Depth: 6 00:00:00 20kN
1...Bb7-e4 2.Be3-f2 Qh4-h6 3.Bf2-e3
= (0.00) Depth: 7 00:00:01 32kN
1...Bb7-e4 2.Be3-g5 c4-c3 3.Bg5xh4 c3xd2 4.Bc2-b3+ Kg8-h8
± (0.71) Depth: 8 00:00:02 69kN
1...Ne5-d3 2.Bc2xd3 c4xd3 3.Qd2xd3 Qh4-g3 4.Rf1-f2 Ra8-d8
² (0.57) Depth: 8 00:00:02 97kN
1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 b4xc3 3.Qd2xc3 Qh4-g3 4.Bc2-b3+ Kg8-h8 5.Ra1-a2
= (0.03) Depth: 8 00:00:03 124kN
1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 b4xc3 3.Qd2xc3 Qh4-g3 4.Bc2-b3+ Kg8-h8 5.Ra1-a2 Ra8-c8
= (0.03) Depth: 9 00:00:06 212kN
1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 b4xc3 3.Qd2xc3 Qh4-g3 4.Bc2-b3+ Kg8-h8 5.Ra1-a2 Ra8-b8
6.Ra2-f2
= (0.13) Depth: 10 00:00:11 402kN
1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 b4xc3 3.Qd2-e1 Qh4xe1 4.Rf1xe1 Bb7-e4 5.Be3-d4 Ne5-f7 6.Bc2xe4
= (0.19) Depth: 11 00:00:26 955kN
1...c4-c3 2.b2xc3 b4xc3 3.Qd2-e1 Qh4xe1 4.Rf1xe1 Bb7-e4 5.Be3-d4 Be4xc2 6.Bd4xe5
Ra8-c8
² (0.39) Depth: 12 00:00:52 1957kN
1...f5-f4 2.Rf1xf4 Qh4-g3 3.Qd2-f2 Ne5-f3+ 4.Kg1-f1 Qg3xf2+ 5.Kf1xf2 Nf3-d4
6.Ra1-c1 Bb7-d5 7.Bc2-d1
² (0.29) Depth: 12 00:01:08 2653kN
1...f5-f4 2.Rf1xf4 Qh4-g3 3.Qd2-f2 Ne5-f3+ 4.Kg1-f1 Qg3xf2+ 5.Kf1xf2 Nf3-d4
6.Ra1-c1 Rf8xf4+ 7.Be3xf4 Ra8-f8 8.Kf2-e3
² (0.30) Depth: 13 00:01:59 4594kN
1...f5-f4 2.Rf1xf4 Qh4-g3 3.Qd2-f2 Ne5-f3+ 4.Kg1-f1 Qg3xf2+ 5.Kf1xf2 Nf3-d4
6.Ra1-c1 Rf8xf4+ 7.Be3xf4 Ra8-f8 8.Kf2-e3
² (0.29) Depth: 14 00:03:42 8462kN
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