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Subject: Re: New Rybka book in test: STUNNING

Author: Paulo Cesar Soares

Date: 11:19:37 02/28/06

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On February 28, 2006 at 14:01:41, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 28, 2006 at 13:14:31, Salvador H Cresce wrote:
>
>>On February 28, 2006 at 12:54:20, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On February 28, 2006 at 11:09:32, Majd Al-Ansari wrote:
>>>
>>>>Letting Rybka use an optimized book is almost not fair for other programs.
>>>
>>>Rybka cannot use that book not under chessbase so I consider it as not part of
>>>rybka'a package.
>>>
>>>I think that the ssdf should not use it in their testing of rybka when they test
>>>rybka because they should test commercial products and the combination between
>>>.ctg book and rybka is combination of 2 commercial products.
>>>
>>>I am lucky to have Fritz8 and Junior9 as chessbase engines but I simply do not
>>>care about book today and I am not going to use it.
>>>
>>><snipped>
>>>>   Rybka was already beating any engine with its own native book very
>>>>handily, so now I guess things will really get ugly.  They might get even uglier
>>>>once the last few weaknesses of Rybka are covered (endgame knowledge).
>>>
>>>You are wrong if you think that lack of some endgame knowledge is the only
>>>weakness of Rybka.
>>>
>>>based on my experience in correspondence games it has more weaknesses.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>What are the weaknesses you found on correspondence games? Where do you play
>>correspondence games? I play on ICCF.
>>
>>Salvador
>
>I also play on ICCF and I found that it does not understand some sacrifices in
>the middle game.
>
>I will post more details later when the games are finished.
>
>I do not trust automatically computers and I analyze positions but I basically
>trust the opinion of chess programs and cases that I choose a move that is
>suggested by no chess programs are rare and they are usually when analysis
>proves or strongly suggest that the computer suggest a bad move.
>
>I am afraid that I am going to lose at least one game because of the weaknesses
>of chess programs but generally they are more productive than counter productive
>and I believe that I could score less without trusting them and only using them
>for blunder check.
>
>Uri

I believe that there are cases in that two or until more moves should be
analyzed with depth, that suggests that little times I believe in the analysis
of the computer.
It is a hard work to choose the best move.
But I have to say that I am not a good player on live chess.

Paulo Soares



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