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Subject: Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again...

Author: Vikrant Malvankar

Date: 22:08:22 02/28/06

On February 28, 2006 at 23:22:38, Peter Skinner wrote:

>Well this isn't chess, and that is what Rybka plays.
>
>You play a variant called "Shuffle pieces around until you get a draw or win on
>time" or SPAUYGADOWOT as I like to call it.
>
>This is not a supported variant with Rybka or most Chess engines. Thus probably
>the reason you are so successful.
It is Chess as i dont see a move in this game which is violating any rules of
chess game.
>
>Should you ask some author's to support this variant, then I suspect your
>success rate will drop however. This is not in your best interest, so I expect
>you not to do it.

Why should he do it? If Engine dont include the code to beat his style of Chess,
they are incomplete and not GM levels since Gm definitely know how to beat his
style of Chess.It is upto Chess Engines 'the so called tactics Masters' to see
the strategical implications of a blocking move to understand  the resulting
blocked positions which simply the Engines fail to see since they are not Human
and they just simulate Chess, So if an Engine can Simulate Chess why cant an
Human (Pablo)?
>
>Now I cleaned up your PGN for you (no thanks needed.. I took the initiative), to
>show what real SPAUYGADOWOT chess looks like.
>
>[Event "Partida evaluada, 5m + 0s"]
>[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
>[Date "2006.02.28"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Father"]
>[Black "Tseeley"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[WhiteElo "2001"]
>[BlackElo "2742"]
>[ECO "D00"]
>[EventDate "2006.01.29"]
>[Annotator "Restrepo,Pablo"]
>[PlyCount "541"]
>[TimeControl "300"]
>
>1.d4 d5 2.e3 Nf6 3.c3 Nc6 4.f4 Bf5 5.Nf3 e6 6.Bd3 Be7 7.O-O O-O
>8.Qc2 Qd7 9.Re1 Bxd3 10.Qxd3 Ne4 11.Nbd2 f5 12.Nf1 Rf6 13.g3 Qe8
>14.Qe2 Qh5 15.N3d2 Qxe2 16.Rxe2 a5 17.Nf3 a4 18.a3 Rff8 19.N3d2 g5
>20.Nf3 g4 21.N3d2 Nd6 22.Re1 Kg7 23.Kg2 Kg6 24.Kg1 Bf6 25.Kg2 Na5
>26.Kg1 h5 27.Kg2 Rh8 28.Kg1 h4 29.Re2 Rh7 30.Rg2 Rah8 31.Kf2 hxg3+
>32.hxg3 Nc6 33.Kg1 Rh1+ 34.Kf2 b6 35.Rg1 R1h3 36.Rg2 R8h7 37.Kg1 Rh1+
>38.Kf2 Na5 39.Rg1 R1h3 40.Rg2 Rh8 41.Kg1 Rh1+ 42.Kf2 Nb5 43.Rg1 R1h7
>44.Rg2 Rh6 45.Kg1 Rh1+ 46.Kf2 Nd6 47.Rg1 R1h3 48.Rg2 R8h7 49.Kg1 Rh1+
>50.Kf2 R7h5 51.Rg1 R1h3 52.Rg2 Rh6 53.Kg1 Rh1+ 54.Kf2 Nc6 55.Rg1 R1h3
>56.Rg2 R3h5 57.Kg1 Rh1+ 58.Kf2 Rh7 59.Rg1 R1h3 60.Rg2 Nb5 61.Kg1 Rh1+
>62.Kf2 Na5 63.Rg1 R1h3 64.Rg2 R3h5 65.Kg1 Rh1+ 66.Kf2 R7h6 67.Rg1 R1h5
>68.Rg2 Rh3 69.Kg1 Rh1+ 70.Kf2 Nd6 71.Rg1 R1h3 72.Rg2 c6 73.Kg1 Rh1+
>74.Kf2 c5 75.Rg1 R1h3 76.Rg2 R6h5 77.Kg1 Rh1+ 78.Kf2 Rh8 79.Rg1 R1h3
>80.Rg2 Nb5 81.Kg1 Rh1+ 82.Kf2 Nc6 83.Rg1 R1h5 84.Rg2 Nd6 85.Kg1 Rh1+
>86.Kf2 R8h7 87.Rg1 R1h3 88.Rg2 R3h6 89.Kg1 Rh1+ 90.Kf2 Rh8 91.Rg1 R1h6
>92.Rg2 Na5 93.Kg1 Rh1+ 94.Kf2 R8h7 95.Rg1 R1h6 96.Rg2 Rh5 97.Kg1 Rh1+
>98.Kf2 Nb5 99.Rg1 R1h3 100.Rg2 R7h5 101.Kg1 Rh1+ 102.Kf2 Rh6 103.Rg1 R1h5
>104.Rg2 Nd6 105.Kg1 Rh1+ 106.Kf2 R6h5 107.Rg1 R1h3 108.Rg2 Kg7 109.Kg1 Rh1+
>110.Kf2 Rh8 111.Rg1 R1h5 112.Rg2 R5h7 113.Kg1 Rh1+ 114.Kf2 Kf7 115.Rg1 R1h3
>116.Rg2 Nb5 117.Kg1 Rh1+ 118.Kf2 Kg6 119.Rg1 R1h6 120.Rg2 Kg7 121.Kg1 Nc6
>122.Rh2 Rxh2 123.Nxh2 Kg6 124.Nhf1 Rh5 125.Kg2 Rh6 126.Kg1 Rh7 127.Kg2 Rh5
>128.Kg1 Rh8 129.Kg2 Na5 130.Kg1 Nd6 131.Kg2 Rh7 132.Kg1 Nb5 133.Kg2 Nb7
>134.Kg1 Rh3 135.Kg2 Rh5 136.Kg1 N7d6 137.Kg2 Rh6 138.Kg1 Rh3 139.Kg2 Rh5
>140.Rb1 Rh7 141.Ra1 Kf7 142.Kg1 Rh8 143.Kg2 Rh6 144.Kg1 Kg6 145.Kg2 Kg7
>146.Kg1 Rh3 147.Kg2 Rh5 148.Kg1 Rh6 149.Kg2 Rh7 150.Kg1 Rh5 151.Kg2 Rh8
>152.Kg1 Kg6 153.Kg2 Kf7 154.Kg1 Kg7 155.Kg2 Kh6 156.Kg1 Kh7 157.Kg2 Kg6
>158.Kg1 Na7 159.Kg2 Nc6 160.Kg1 Rh7 161.Kg2 c4 162.Kg1 Rh3 163.Kg2 Rh5
>164.Ra2 Rh7 165.Ra1 Na5 166.Rb1 Rh8 167.Ra1 Rh5 168.Kg1 Nc6 169.Kg2 Rh6
>170.Kg1 b5 171.Kg2 Rh5 172.Kg1 Rh3 173.Kg2 Rh6 174.Kg1 Rh7 175.Kg2 Na5
>176.Kg1 Rh8 177.Kg2 Kf7 178.Kg1 Nc6 179.Kg2 Rh5 180.Kg1 Kg7 181.Kg2 Na5
>182.Kg1 Rh8 183.Kg2 Bd8 184.Kg1 Kg6 185.Kg2 Rh7 186.Kg1 Rh6 187.Kg2 Bf6
>188.Kg1 Rh7 189.Kg2 Bg7 190.Kg1 Nc6 191.Kg2 Bf6 192.Kg1 Rh5 193.Kg2 Na5
>194.Kg1 Be7 195.Kg2 Rh8 196.Kg1 Nc6 197.Kg2 Bf6 198.Kg1 Ne8 199.Kg2 Be7
>200.Kg1 Nf6 201.Kg2 Kf7 202.Kg1 Bf8 203.Kg2 Bd6 204.Kg1 Rh6 205.Kg2 Kg6
>206.Kg1 Rh8 207.Kg2 Rh7 208.Kg1 Rh3 209.Kg2 Rh8 210.Kg1 Bc7 211.Kg2 Kh6
>212.Kg1 Na5 213.Kg2 Kg7 214.Kg1 Kg6 215.Kg2 Bd6 216.Kg1 Kg7 217.Kg2 Kf8
>218.Kg1 Kf7 219.Kg2 Nb3 220.Rb1 Nxd2 221.Bxd2 Nd7 222.Be1 Nb8 223.Ra1 Rh7
>224.Kg1 Nc6 225.Kg2 Ke8 226.Kg1 Ke7 227.Kg2 Rh5 228.Kg1 Rh8 229.Kg2 Kd7
>230.Kg1 Kc7 231.Kg2 Kb6 232.Kg1 Rh3 233.Kg2 Rh7 234.Kg1 Bf8 235.Kg2 Bg7
>236.Kg1 Bf6 237.Kg2 Rh8 238.Kg1 Be7 239.Kg2 Nb8 240.Kg1 Nd7 241.Kg2 Bd6
>242.Kg1 Nf6 243.Kg2 Kb7 244.Kg1 Rh7 245.Kg2 Kb6 246.Kg1 Ne4 247.Kg2 Be7
>248.Ra2 Nd6 249.Ra1 Rh8 250.Ra2 Bf6 251.Ra1 Kb7 252.Ra2 Rh3 253.Ra1 Kc7
>254.Ra2 Rh7 255.Ra1 Ne4 256.Ra2 Kc6 257.Ra1 Rh8 258.Ra2 Be7 259.Ra1 Bf8
>260.Ra2 Nf6 261.Ra1 Nh5 262.Ra2 Bd6 263.Ra1 Nf6 264.Ra2 Kd7 265.Ra1 Ke7
>266.Ra2 Kf7 267.Ra1 Ne4 268.Ra2 Be7 269.Ra1 Kg6 270.Ra2 Nd6 271.Ra1
>1/2-1/2
>
>Peter

All engines that are loosing against me have not a tottal G.M. level Pablo Ignacio Restrepo 03:48:17 03/01/06
Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Peter Skinner 23:36:30 02/28/06
- Peter. Agreed . Chess Tiger Gambit 3.0 and old Craftys. Great examples Pablo Ignacio Restrepo 03:50:11 03/01/06
- Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Francesco Di Tolla 03:14:43 03/01/06
  - Francesco. Anti-chess is pure Chess, that is in persecution by ICC.. Pablo Ignacio Restrepo 04:02:07 03/01/06
- Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Robert Hollay 01:09:36 03/01/06
  - "Comp Quark" is the bestone of all............. Pablo Ignacio Restrepo 04:04:36 03/01/06
- Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Vikrant Malvankar 00:22:56 03/01/06
  - Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Peter Skinner 00:49:04 03/01/06
    - Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Vikrant Malvankar 02:42:08 03/01/06
    - Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Vikrant Malvankar 02:42:01 03/01/06
Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Greg Simpson 23:15:44 02/28/06
- Greg. ... Time to be building an ANTICHESS ENGINE. A killer machine!!!!! Pablo Ignacio Restrepo 04:10:01 03/01/06
- Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Mark Boylan 23:24:19 02/28/06
  - Mark !!!!!! Agree. !!!!!....>An anti-engine chess engine, I love it too! Pablo Ignacio Restrepo 04:11:47 03/01/06
  - Re: Are engines 2006 really strong enought ? Rybka in troubles again... Vikrant Malvankar 00:35:17 03/01/06

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