Author: Vikrant Malvankar
Date: 00:22:56 03/01/06
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On March 01, 2006 at 02:36:30, Peter Skinner wrote: >On March 01, 2006 at 01:08:22, Vikrant Malvankar wrote: > >>Why should he do it? If Engine dont include the code to beat his style of Chess, >>they are incomplete and not GM levels since Gm definitely know how to beat his >>style of Chess.It is upto Chess Engines 'the so called tactics Masters' to see >>the strategical implications of a blocking move to understand the resulting >>blocked positions which simply the Engines fail to see since they are not Human >>and they just simulate Chess, So if an Engine can Simulate Chess why cant an >>Human (Pablo)? > >Playing SPAUYGADOWOT chess is not simulating clasical chess. Pablo does not play Classical chess at all. He just plays Blocking Chess and will be busted against any >2000 player if he plays that type of Chess. But he by playing those games have proved that Computers have weaknesses(at present) to supplement their strength. He might have won on time or drawn on time, but it is worthwhile to play Blocking Chess if there is a chance to get Strategically superior position against Computers. Sure it is not entertaining but Do Computers entertain themselves when they sac sac and mate us?. They have their own strengths and play accor. to that so why cant we?. Computers PLAY >classical chess. What he is playing is a cross between shuffle board and chess >until the 50 move rule or the engine loses on time to stop the game. Nothing >more. > Computers dont play Classical Chess. They just try to simulate Chess played by Humans. They have limited vision. (12-13 or so moves ahead). They depend on Opening books to get them into Middlegame, They dont play Endgames well.Tablebases are required?. Humans dont play perfect Chess but atleast players like Anand,kasparov,topalov dont depend on outside factors to play GM Chess. >This does not make an engine incomplete, nor does it made the engine non-GM >strength. It simply means that the engine does not support the SPAUYGADOWOT >variant of chess. That means it is not a complete Chess Package yet > >I hope you are not seriously going to argue that since Pablo can play this >"style" of chess against most engines, they are not GM strength? Sure they dont know hw to play that kind of Chess which is still Legal Chess, Even though weird Chess. > >Try this against Gambit Tiger with anti-human on or Crafty and you find out >quickly this pawn blocking routine doesn't work all that well. This is probably >why he can't do it against Crafty like it can with other programs. Pawn blocking for the sake of blocking as Pablo does in Blitz games might not work but certain strategies e.g. closing centre with the aim of stabilising or stopping tactical lines and improving piece positions only to open up centre or Pawn Chains later might be useful somewhere. > >Christophe purposely put code in Tiger to stop players on the servers from >playing this "brand" of chess and winning on time. Did he do it? and if it was because of some players winning on time then pablo's games will not go waste. Regards Vikrant > >Peter
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