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Subject: Re: Kramnik-Fritz

Author: Tony Nichols

Date: 08:41:52 03/01/06

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On March 01, 2006 at 09:53:23, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 01, 2006 at 09:11:59, Tony Nichols wrote:
>
>>On March 01, 2006 at 09:09:58, David Dahlem wrote:
>>
>>>On March 01, 2006 at 08:47:34, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 01, 2006 at 08:20:05, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 01, 2006 at 07:34:19, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Challenger.  Pablo Ignacio Restrepo is making now this challenger:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"CHALLENGER TO TOP ENGINES: IN NEXT 10 YEARS WILL BE LOOSING OR MAKING DRAWS,
>>>>>>MANY TOP ENGINES, PLAYING AGAINST AMATEURS AND STRONG CHESS PLAYERS."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pablo Ignacio Restrepo
>>>>>>Tittle: Amateur
>>>>>
>>>>>      I don't understand what you mean with this posting.
>>>>>      Best regards
>>>>>      Kurt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Maybe his post is some sort of prediction for the coming match between
>>>>   Kramnik and Fritz?!
>>>>
>>>>   http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2947
>>>>
>>>>   /S
>>>
>>>"One Million US Dollars for a win against the world's strongest chess program"
>>>
>>>LOL ... what propoganda! :-)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Dave
>>
>>
>>Hello Dave,
>>
>> I think more important is the fact, Kramnik will get $500,000 just to play. If
>>he had not drawn Deep Fritz in 2002, I think someone else would have got this
>>match.
>>Regards
>>Tony
>
>Do you suggest that kramnik earn money from not winning Deep Fritz in 2002.
>
>Kramnik was very close to winning but started to play like a patzer and lost
>because of mistakes that even I expect myself to avoid in most games(one ply
>mistake and resigning in practically drawn position because fritz could not win
>it).
>
>Did chessbase promise kramnik another match if he does not win the match in
>2002?
>
>I think that humans who only draw should not get another match unless all the
>players with higher rating get another match and lose it.
>
>Uri


Hello Uri,

 It is a fact that Kramnik earned money for the match in 2002. It is also a fact
that he did not win. So the answer to your question is yes.
 I do not think Chessbase promised Kramnik anything but a check.
 I think that if Kramnik had won the match in 2002, Chessbase would not be so
interested in a rematch. A draw is a mutually satisfying result. Kramnik gets
$500,000 and Chessbase gets to say that the World Champion could not beat their
program in a match!
 It must be understood that these matches are not designed to determine who is
the strongest player. They are a way to advertise products. Of course, Kramnik
has at least 500,000 reasons to win the match and Chessbase would do well to win
also.
 If I remember correctly, In 2002 they played 8 games. Now, Only 6. This
definitely favors Kramnik. If they had played only 6 games in 2002 he would have
won.
 I think the reason Kramnik gets the match is because he is marketable. This is
not a democratic process. The average public does not care if GM so and so plays
against a computer, but if the World Champion plays against the computer, it is
something else.

Regards
Tony



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