Author: Tony Nichols
Date: 10:37:15 03/01/06
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On March 01, 2006 at 13:04:07, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 01, 2006 at 11:41:52, Tony Nichols wrote: > >>On March 01, 2006 at 09:53:23, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On March 01, 2006 at 09:11:59, Tony Nichols wrote: >>> >>>>On March 01, 2006 at 09:09:58, David Dahlem wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 01, 2006 at 08:47:34, Sune Larsson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On March 01, 2006 at 08:20:05, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On March 01, 2006 at 07:34:19, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Challenger. Pablo Ignacio Restrepo is making now this challenger: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>"CHALLENGER TO TOP ENGINES: IN NEXT 10 YEARS WILL BE LOOSING OR MAKING DRAWS, >>>>>>>>MANY TOP ENGINES, PLAYING AGAINST AMATEURS AND STRONG CHESS PLAYERS." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Pablo Ignacio Restrepo >>>>>>>>Tittle: Amateur >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't understand what you mean with this posting. >>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>> Kurt >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe his post is some sort of prediction for the coming match between >>>>>> Kramnik and Fritz?! >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2947 >>>>>> >>>>>> /S >>>>> >>>>>"One Million US Dollars for a win against the world's strongest chess program" >>>>> >>>>>LOL ... what propoganda! :-) >>>>> >>>>>Regards >>>>>Dave >>>> >>>> >>>>Hello Dave, >>>> >>>> I think more important is the fact, Kramnik will get $500,000 just to play. If >>>>he had not drawn Deep Fritz in 2002, I think someone else would have got this >>>>match. >>>>Regards >>>>Tony >>> >>>Do you suggest that kramnik earn money from not winning Deep Fritz in 2002. >>> >>>Kramnik was very close to winning but started to play like a patzer and lost >>>because of mistakes that even I expect myself to avoid in most games(one ply >>>mistake and resigning in practically drawn position because fritz could not win >>>it). >>> >>>Did chessbase promise kramnik another match if he does not win the match in >>>2002? >>> >>>I think that humans who only draw should not get another match unless all the >>>players with higher rating get another match and lose it. >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>Hello Uri, >> >> It is a fact that Kramnik earned money for the match in 2002. It is also a fact >>that he did not win. So the answer to your question is yes. >> I do not think Chessbase promised Kramnik anything but a check. >> I think that if Kramnik had won the match in 2002, Chessbase would not be so >>interested in a rematch. > >If this is correct then it clearly support my theory that kramnik lost on >purpose. > > A draw is a mutually satisfying result. Kramnik gets >>$500,000 and Chessbase gets to say that the World Champion could not beat their >>program in a match! >> It must be understood that these matches are not designed to determine who is >>the strongest player. They are a way to advertise products. Of course, Kramnik >>has at least 500,000 reasons to win the match and Chessbase would do well to win >>also. >> If I remember correctly, In 2002 they played 8 games. Now, Only 6. This >>definitely favors Kramnik. If they had played only 6 games in 2002 he would have >>won. > >This is not correct. > >Kramnik was leading 3-1 in 2002 and lost games 5 and 6. > >see http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=561 > >I believe that he lost on purpose in order to have another match but even if we >assume that he did not lose on purpose then there is no evidence for a win for >kramnik after 6 games. > You are correct. I was mistaken. > >> I think the reason Kramnik gets the match is because he is marketable. This is >>not a democratic process. The average public does not care if GM so and so plays >>against a computer, but if the World Champion plays against the computer, it is >>something else. >> >>Regards >>Tony > >I think that most of the chess players consider topalov as the world champion >and not kramnik. > >Uri I think this is because they have a chance to play for Topalov's title. My rule of thumb: If you don't have to beat the Champ to be the Champ, He wasn't the Champ in the first place! It is possible for the next Fide Champ to lose all his games against the current Champ. Does this seem logical? I hope Bessel Kok gets elected as next Fide president. If he does, All this multi-Champ stuff will disappear. Regards Tony
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