Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 16:54:09 03/01/06
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On March 01, 2006 at 13:12:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On March 01, 2006 at 12:32:18, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > >>This message is not really right! >> >>Kramnik is only Nr. 6 of the World now and Topalov is the real World Champion. >> >>(But Kramnik should beat Topalov if he it can, I dount that) >> >> 1 Kasparov, Garry g RUS 2812 0 1963 >> 2 Topalov, Veselin g BUL 2801 14 1975 >> 3 Anand, Viswanathan g IND 2792 14 1969 >> 4 Svidler, Peter g RUS 2765 21 1976 >> 5 Aronian, Levon g ARM 2752 33 1982 >> 6 Kramnik, Vladimir g RUS 2741 4 1975 >> >>Btw, Anand will get over 2800 in April 2006! >> >>And Fritz? >> >>Where You see it in the Rating List? Nr.1? NO! >> >>Against Humans last: >> >>2-2 only (other Programs scored better!) >> >>Here are the games of Bilbao: >> >>[Event "2nd Man Machine"] >>[Site "?"] >>[Date "2005.??.??"] >>[Round "1"] >>[White "FRITZ"] >>[Black "Khalifman, A."] >>[Result "1-0"] >>[ECO "C77"] >>[BlackElo "2650"] >>[PlyCount "105"] >>[EventDate "2005.??.??"] >> >>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 Nf6 4. d3 d6 5. c3 Be7 6. O-O O-O 7. Nbd2 a6 8. Ba4 >>b5 9. Bc2 Re8 10. Re1 Bf8 11. d4 h6 12. Nf1 Bb7 13. Ng3 g6 14. a4 Bg7 15. Bd3 >>bxa4 16. Qxa4 exd4 17. cxd4 Nd7 18. Be3 Nb6 19. Qb3 a5 20. Bb5 Rf8 21. d5 Nb4 >>22. Bd4 Bxd4 23. Nxd4 Bc8 24. Nc6 Nxc6 25. Bxc6 Ra7 26. Ne2 Bd7 27. Nd4 a4 28. >>Qd3 Bc8 29. Qe3 Kh7 30. f4 Qe7 31. Qc3 Qf6 32. e5 dxe5 33. fxe5 Qe7 34. Nb5 Ra6 >>35. Rad1 a3 36. bxa3 Ra4 37. d6 cxd6 38. Nxd6 Ra6 39. Bb5 Ra8 40. Qd4 Qa7 41. >>Bc6 Rb8 42. Rb1 Be6 43. Bb7 Rxb7 44. Nxb7 Qxb7 45. Rxb6 Qa7 46. a4 Rc8 47. Rb4 >>Qa8 48. Qf2 Rc3 49. Rf4 Qb7 50. Rf1 Kg7 51. a5 Qc7 52. Qd4 Kg8 53. a6 1-0 >> >>[Event "2nd Man Machine"] >>[Site "?"] >>[Date "2005.??.??"] >>[Round "2"] >>[White "Ponomariov, R."] >>[Black "FRITZ"] >>[Result "1-0"] >>[ECO "D00"] >>[WhiteElo "2700"] >>[PlyCount "95"] >>[EventDate "2005.??.??"] >> >>1. d4 Nf6 2. c3 d5 3. Bf4 Bf5 4. e3 e6 5. Qb3 Nbd7 6. Qxb7 Bd6 7. Bxd6 cxd6 8. >>Qa6 Rb8 9. Qa3 Qb6 10. b4 O-O 11. Nd2 e5 12. Ngf3 Qc7 13. Ba6 e4 14. Ng1 Rb6 >>15. Rc1 Nb8 16. Be2 Rc8 17. Bd1 Bd7 18. Ne2 Bb5 19. O-O Nbd7 20. Nb3 h5 21. Re1 >>h4 22. h3 Rb7 23. Na5 Rbb8 24. Ba4 a6 25. Bb3 Nb6 26. Qb2 Qd7 27. a3 Rc7 28. >>Qa2 Rbc8 29. Nf4 Qf5 30. a4 Bd3 31. g4 hxg3 32. fxg3 g5 33. g4 Qh7 34. Nh5 Nxh5 >>35. gxh5 Qxh5 36. Qh2 Qh4 37. Kg2 Rxc3 38. Rxc3 Rxc3 39. Qg3 Bc2 40. Qxh4 gxh4 >>41. Rc1 Rxb3 42. Nxb3 Bxb3 43. a5 Nc4 44. b5 Ba4 45. bxa6 Bc6 46. a7 Kg7 47. a6 >>Ba8 48. Rb1 1-0 >> >>[Event "2nd Man Machine"] >>[Site "?"] >>[Date "2005.??.??"] >>[Round "3"] >>[White "FRITZ"] >>[Black "Kasimdzhanov, R."] >>[Result "1/2-1/2"] >>[ECO "B12"] >>[BlackElo "2670"] >>[PlyCount "107"] >>[EventDate "2005.??.??"] >> >>1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nc3 h5 5. Bd3 Bxd3 6. Qxd3 e6 7. Nf3 Nh6 8. a4 >>Be7 9. O-O Nf5 10. Nd1 Nd7 11. Ne3 g6 12. a5 a6 13. c4 Nh4 14. Nxh4 Bxh4 15. b3 >>Be7 16. f4 Rg8 17. Qe2 f5 18. Ba3 Bxa3 19. Rxa3 Qe7 20. Raa1 O-O-O 21. b4 dxc4 >>22. Nxc4 Kb8 23. Rac1 g5 24. Nd6 gxf4 25. Rc2 Nf8 26. Qxh5 Ng6 27. Qf3 Nh4 28. >>Qxf4 Rg4 29. Qh6 Rdg8 30. g3 Rxd4 31. Qe3 Rxb4 32. Kh1 Ng6 33. Qa3 Rb5 34. Nxb5 >>axb5 35. Qd6+ Qxd6 36. exd6 Kc8 37. a6 Kd7 38. a7 Ra8 39. Ra1 Kxd6 40. Rd2+ Ke7 >>41. Re2 Kd6 42. h4 b4 43. h5 Nf8 44. Kg2 c5 45. Rb2 Kc6 46. h6 Kb5 47. g4 c4 >>48. gxf5 b3 49. fxe6 Nxe6 50. h7 Ng5 51. h8=Q Rxh8 52. a8=Q Rxa8 53. Rxa8 Ne6 >>54. Rh8 1/2-1/2 >> >>[Event "2nd Man Machine"] >>[Site "?"] >>[Date "2005.??.??"] >>[Round "4"] >>[White "Khalifman, A."] >>[Black "FRITZ"] >>[Result "1/2-1/2"] >>[ECO "E12"] >>[WhiteElo "2650"] >>[PlyCount "106"] >>[EventDate "2005.??.??"] >> >>1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 e6 3. c4 b6 4. Nc3 Bb7 5. Bg5 h6 6. Bh4 Be7 7. e3 Ne4 8. Nxe4 >>Bxe4 9. Bxe7 Qxe7 10. Be2 O-O 11. O-O d6 12. Nd2 Bb7 13. Bf3 c5 14. Bxb7 Qxb7 >>15. Nf3 Nd7 16. dxc5 dxc5 17. Qc2 Rad8 18. Rfd1 Rfe8 19. h3 Qc7 20. b3 Nf6 21. >>Rac1 e5 22. Rxd8 Rxd8 23. e4 Qd6 24. Re1 Nh7 25. Nh2 f6 26. Nf1 Qd3 27. Qxd3 >>Rxd3 28. h4 Nf8 29. Re2 Ne6 30. Rd2 Rd4 31. Rxd4 cxd4 32. Nd2 Kf7 33. g3 g6 34. >>Kf1 f5 35. Ke2 Nc5 36. f3 h5 37. b4 Ne6 38. exf5 gxf5 39. Kd3 Ke7 40. a3 a6 41. >>Nb3 Kd6 42. Nd2 b5 43. Nb3 f4 44. g4 hxg4 45. fxg4 bxc4+ 46. Kxc4 e4 47. Nxd4 >>f3 48. Nxf3 exf3 49. Kd3 Ke5 50. Ke3 Nd4 51. h5 Ke6 52. h6 Kf7 53. g5 Kg6 >>1/2-1/2 >> >>That are facts! >> >>On March 01, 2006 at 09:11:52, Tord Romstad wrote: >> >>>Taken from the ChessBase site: >>> >>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=2947 >>> >>> The classical World Chess Champion against the world's strongest >>> computer program: In the WORLD CHESS CHALLENGE (WCC) 2006 classical >>> chess World Champion Vladimir Kramnik (Russia) will play a match >>> against the world's leading chess computer program, Deep Fritz >>> (Germany). >>> >>>Calling Fritz "the world's leading chess computer program" is not just >>>stretching the truth, it's blatantly untrue. I refuse to believe that >>>ChessBase is unaware of the existence of chess programs stronger than >>>Fritz. They are lying, plain and simple. >>> >>>It is also getting boring to always watch the same programs get the >>>chance to play against the top GMs. >>> >>>Tord > > >The point is this. ChessBase apparently is putting up the money. It would make >sense they get to choose the program to play. And they'd obviously choose their >"flagship" program for the marketing advantage such a match provides. > >As the golden rule says, "them that has the gold, makes the rules"... :) Yes, but at least they should get somebody that can put up a fight better than Kramnik, to me he just take the money being offered and do whatever chessbase ask him to do. Why doesn't chessbase offer Anand a match, probably because anand will crush whatever program chessbase come up with :-) Jorge
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