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Subject: Re: LG Evolution test at 10'+10" -- a quick look raises the eyebrows.

Author: Joseph Ciarrochi

Date: 17:13:58 03/03/06

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>
> Also in 30-40% of times L-Goliath-E seemingly "outsearched" Rybka by 2-3 or
>more plies! And in almost 100% of the cases L-Goliath-E had shown more plies
>searched than Rybka. Of course this tells nothing about strength but it's
>something that is worth to be noticed.....

I don't think rybka ply output is accurate. I suspect you have to add 2 to
whatever it claims. Uri did some tests which show rybka recognizing 3 ply
tactics (if i recall) when set to go no deeper than one ply). If you really want
proof, though, run a 11 ply tournment. Rybka will destroy everybody (because it
is really going to maybe 13 ply) and take much much longer on each move

best
J



>
>
>[Event "Blitz:10'+10""]
>[Site "AMD 3500+"]
>[Date "2006.03.03"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "Rybka 1.01 Beta 13d 32-bit"]
>[Black "Little Goliath Evolution"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "B49"]
>[Annotator "0.42;0.65"]
>[PlyCount "111"]
>[TimeControl "600+10"]
>
>{W=14.0 ply; 96kN/s; 386 TBAs  B=16.9 ply; 2.581kN/s; 197 TBAs} 1. e4 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
>3. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} cxd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Nxd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. Nc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qc7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Be2 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]
>} 8. Be3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bb4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Na4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 10. Nxc6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} bxc6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Nb6 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Rb8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 12. Nxc8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Qxc8 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 13. Bd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 14. Be5 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Rb6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 15. Qd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 16. b3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 17. Bc3 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 18. exd5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nxd5 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 19. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nb4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 20. Qc4 {
>Both last book move [%emt 0:00:00]} Bf6 {[%eval 65,18] [%emt 0:00:50]} 21. Rad1
>{(Bd2-c3) [%eval 42,14] [%emt 0:00:34]} Nxa2 {
>(Nb4-d5) [%eval 45,17] [%emt 0:00:32]} 22. Bf3 {
>(Bd2-a5) [%eval 36,14] [%emt 0:00:57]} Nb4 {
>(Rb6-b5) [%eval 13,18] [%emt 0:00:40]} 23. Be3 {
>(Rf1-e1) [%eval 37,14] [%emt 0:00:51]} Rb5 {
>(Bf6-e7) [%eval 21,17] [%emt 0:00:31]} 24. Rd6 {[%eval 43,14] [%emt 0:00:29]}
>Be5 {[%eval 11,18] [%emt 0:00:43]} 25. Rd2 {[%eval 40,14] [%emt 0:00:35]} Bd4 {
>(Nb4-a2) [%eval 20,17] [%emt 0:00:41]} 26. Rfd1 {[%eval 27,14] [%emt 0:01:14]}
>Bxe3 {[%eval 21,18] [%emt 0:00:39]} 27. fxe3 {[%eval 27,14] [%emt 0:00:15]} h6
>{[%eval 33,18] [%emt 0:00:32]} 28. h3 {(Qc4-c3) [%eval 22,13] [%emt 0:00:50]}
>Qb8 {(Rb5-a5) [%eval 12,16] [%emt 0:00:23]} 29. Qc3 {
>(Qc4-f4) [%eval 18,13] [%emt 0:00:33]} Qg3 {[%eval 0,17] [%emt 0:00:20]} 30.
>Rd7 {[%eval 6,13] [%emt 0:00:39]} Qg5 {[%eval 0,17] [%emt 0:00:20]} 31. Bb7 {
>(Kg1-h2) [%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:00:52]} Qg6 {(Rf8-e8) [%eval 0,16] [%emt 0:00:20]
>} 32. R1d2 {[%eval 14,13] [%emt 0:00:27]} Qg3 {
>(Qg6-g5) [%eval 0,17] [%emt 0:00:20]} 33. Bf3 {
>(Rd2-d1) [%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:01:01]} Qg5 {[%eval 0,16] [%emt 0:00:29]} 34. Kf2
>{(Rd2-d6) [%eval 0,14] [%emt 0:00:57]} Ra5 {
>(Qg5-h4+) [%eval 0,15] [%emt 0:00:18]} 35. g3 {
>(Rd7-c7) [%eval 37,13] [%emt 0:00:20]} Qf5 {[%eval 27,16] [%emt 0:00:28]} 36.
>Kg2 {[%eval 43,13] [%emt 0:00:15]} Rb5 {(Rf8-c8) [%eval 29,17] [%emt 0:00:27]}
>37. e4 {(Rd7-c7) [%eval 76,15] [%emt 0:00:20]} Qg6 {
>(Qf5-g5) [%eval 143,17] [%emt 0:00:21]} 38. Rc7 {[%eval 110,14] [%emt 0:00:27]}
>Na2 {[%eval 152,17] [%emt 0:00:32]} 39. Qe5 {[%eval 105,15] [%emt 0:00:26]} c4
>{(Qg6-g5) [%eval 179,17] [%emt 0:00:32]} 40. Qd6 {[%eval 136,13] [%emt 0:00:19]
>} Rfb8 {[%eval 233,17] [%emt 0:01:32]} 41. Rxc4 {[%eval 150,13] [%emt 0:00:26]}
>a5 {(Qg6-g5) [%eval 243,16] [%emt 0:00:21]} 42. Rc7 {
>(e4-e5) [%eval 159,12] [%emt 0:00:27]} Qf6 {
>(Qg6-g5) [%eval 243,15] [%emt 0:00:16]} 43. Qd7 {
>(Bf3-e2) [%eval 178,12] [%emt 0:00:30]} Re5 {[%eval 268,15] [%emt 0:00:24]} 44.
>Rf2 {(Qd7-d4) [%eval 201,13] [%emt 0:00:18]} Qg6 {[%eval 331,15] [%emt 0:00:17]
>} 45. h4 {(Qd7-d6) [%eval 238,12] [%emt 0:00:34]} f5 {
>[%eval 292,15] [%emt 0:00:33]} 46. Bh5 {[%eval 252,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Qf6 {
>[%eval 307,15] [%emt 0:00:20]} 47. Bf7+ {[%eval 271,12] [%emt 0:00:19]} Kh7 {
>[%eval 341,16] [%emt 0:00:19]} 48. h5 {(e4xf5) [%eval 401,13] [%emt 0:00:21]}
>Rf8 {[%eval 318,15] [%emt 0:00:19]} 49. exf5 {[%eval 382,14] [%emt 0:00:35]}
>exf5 {[%eval 342,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} 50. Bg6+ {[%eval 390,13] [%emt 0:00:17]}
>Kg8 {[%eval 406,15] [%emt 0:00:11]} 51. Rf4 {
>(Rc7-c8) [%eval 407,13] [%emt 0:00:36]} Re2+ {
>(Na2-b4) [%eval 329,13] [%emt 0:00:09]} 52. Kh3 {[%eval 555,13] [%emt 0:00:35]}
>Re5 {(Rf8-d8) [%eval 588,14] [%emt 0:00:18]} 53. Rc8 {
>[%eval 644,12] [%emt 0:00:03]} Nc3 {[%eval 994,14] [%emt 0:00:11]} 54. Rfc4 {
>(Rc8xf8+) [%eval 817,13] [%emt 0:00:15]} Re7 {
>(Re5-d5) [%eval 1187,16] [%emt 0:00:24]} 55. Rxf8+ {
>[%eval 881,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} Qxf8 {[%eval 1507,16] [%emt 0:00:13]} 56. Qc8 {
>[%eval 881,16] [%emt 0:01:17]} 1-0
>
>
>
>[Event "Blitz:10'+10""]
>[Site "AMD 3500+"]
>[Date "2006.03.03"]
>[Round "2"]
>[White "Little Goliath Evolution"]
>[Black "Rybka 1.01 Beta 13d 32-bit"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "E15"]
>[Annotator "0.11;0.38"]
>[PlyCount "98"]
>[TimeControl "600+10"]
>
>{W=17.3 ply; 2.548kN/s; 6 TBAs  B=14.1 ply; 103kN/s} 1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6
>{[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. c4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} b6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. g3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Ba6 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
>5. b3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bb4+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Bg2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Bc3 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Ne5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nfd7 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 10. Nxd7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nxd7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Nd2 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} 12. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} Rc8 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 13. e4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} b5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 14. Re1 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} dxe4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 15. Bxe4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} bxc4 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 16. bxc4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nb6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 17. c5 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Nd5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Qc2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {
>Both last book move [%emt 0:00:00]} 19. Nf3 {[%eval 11,17] [%emt 0:00:27]} Nf6
>{[%eval 38,14] [%emt 0:00:41]} 20. Ne5 {[%eval 20,18] [%emt 0:00:29]} Nxe4 {
>[%eval 26,15] [%emt 0:00:38]} 21. Qxe4 {[%eval 24,18] [%emt 0:00:32]} Qc7 {
>[%eval 31,14] [%emt 0:00:27]} 22. Bd2 {[%eval 35,18] [%emt 0:00:31]} f5 {
>(Rf8-d8) [%eval 31,14] [%emt 0:00:34]} 23. Qf3 {[%eval 48,18] [%emt 0:00:30]}
>Bf6 {[%eval 42,14] [%emt 0:00:32]} 24. Qb3 {
>(Qf3-a3) [%eval 38,18] [%emt 0:00:29]} Rfe8 {[%eval 48,14] [%emt 0:01:23]} 25.
>Bf4 {[%eval 40,18] [%emt 0:00:28]} Rb8 {(Qc7-b7) [%eval 57,14] [%emt 0:00:31]}
>26. Qa4 {[%eval 48,17] [%emt 0:00:35]} Bb5 {
>(Qc7-b7) [%eval 62,15] [%emt 0:00:32]} 27. Qd1 {
>(Qa4-c2) [%eval 60,18] [%emt 0:00:27]} Qc8 {
>(Rb8-d8) [%eval 50,14] [%emt 0:00:21]} 28. Rb1 {
>(Qd1-f3) [%eval 63,18] [%emt 0:00:27]} Rb7 {[%eval 31,14] [%emt 0:00:24]} 29.
>a4 {[%eval 46,18] [%emt 0:00:26]} Bxe5 {[%eval 21,16] [%emt 0:00:25]} 30. Bxe5
>{[%eval 50,19] [%emt 0:00:18]} Bc4 {[%eval 16,15] [%emt 0:00:24]} 31. Qh5 {
>(Qd1-c2) [%eval 60,18] [%emt 0:00:20]} Ree7 {
>(Re8-d8) [%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:00:18]} 32. Qg6 {[%eval 20,16] [%emt 0:00:21]}
>Ba2 {(Bc4-d5) [%eval -3,15] [%emt 0:00:25]} 33. Ra1 {
>[%eval 0,17] [%emt 0:00:18]} Bd5 {[%eval -9,15] [%emt 0:00:24]} 34. Bd6 {
>(Ra1-b1) [%eval 0,18] [%emt 0:00:29]} Rf7 {[%eval -16,14] [%emt 0:00:35]} 35.
>Bf4 {(a4-a5) [%eval 0,19] [%emt 0:00:20]} Be4 {
>(Rf7-f6) [%eval -37,13] [%emt 0:00:24]} 36. Qh5 {
>(Bf4-e5) [%eval -38,16] [%emt 0:00:29]} Rb2 {[%eval -51,13] [%emt 0:00:56]} 37.
>Be5 {[%eval -43,17] [%emt 0:00:28]} Rb3 {(Be4-d5) [%eval -50,14] [%emt 0:00:48]
>} 38. Qg6 {[%eval -24,17] [%emt 0:00:21]} Qd7 {
>(Rf7-b7) [%eval -46,14] [%emt 0:00:47]} 39. Ra2 {
>(Be5-d6) [%eval -30,15] [%emt 0:00:20]} Qd5 {
>(Rb3-b4) [%eval -85,12] [%emt 0:00:16]} 40. Rd2 {
>(Be5-f4) [%eval -144,14] [%emt 0:00:23]} Rfb7 {
>(Rb3-b4) [%eval -99,13] [%emt 0:00:22]} 41. g4 {[%eval -133,15] [%emt 0:00:58]}
>Rb1 {[%eval -190,13] [%emt 0:00:21]} 42. Rde2 {[%eval -123,15] [%emt 0:00:18]}
>Qa2 {(Qd5-d7) [%eval -217,13] [%emt 0:00:36]} 43. Qe8+ {
>(g4xf5) [%eval -202,16] [%emt 0:01:29]} Kh7 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 44. g5
>{[%eval -227,16] [%emt 0:00:24]} Rxe1+ {[%eval -450,13] [%emt 0:00:28]} 45.
>Rxe1 {[%eval -153,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} f4 {[%eval -472,14] [%emt 0:00:32]} 46.
>g6+ {(Be5xf4) [%eval -307,14] [%emt 0:00:32]} Bxg6 {
>[%eval -159,2] [%emt 0:00:00]} 47. Qf8 {[%eval -822,16] [%emt 0:00:46]} Qd2 {
>(Bg6-f5) [%eval -561,13] [%emt 0:00:13]} 48. Rf1 {
>(Re1-a1) [%eval -918,15] [%emt 0:00:13]} Bf5 {[%eval -637,13] [%emt 0:00:13]}
>49. Qc8 {[%eval -1140,14] [%emt 0:00:19]} Rb1 {[%eval -867,14] [%emt 0:00:19]}
>0-1
>
>
>[Event "Blitz:10'+10""]
>[Site "AMD 3500+"]
>[Date "2006.03.03"]
>[Round "1"]
>[White "Rybka 1.01 Beta 13d 32-bit"]
>[Black "Little Goliath Evolution"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "C92"]
>[Annotator "0.00;0.35"]
>[PlyCount "105"]
>[TimeControl "600+10"]
>
>{W=15.3 ply; 120kN/s; 8.564 TBAs  B=17.0 ply; 2.408kN/s; 100.972 TBAs} 1. e4 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} e5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nc6 {[%emt 0:00:00]
>} 3. Bb5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Ba4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Re1 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} b5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Bb3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d6 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
>8. c3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} 9. h3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bb7 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 10. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Re8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Nbd2 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Bf8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 12. a4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} h6 {[%emt 0:00:00]
>} 13. Bc2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} exd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 14. cxd4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nb4
>{[%emt 0:00:00]} 15. Bb1 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 16. d5 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Nd7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 17. Ra3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} f5 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 18. Nh2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 19. Rf3 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Re5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 20. Rxf5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Rxf5 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 21. exf5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bxd5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 22. Ng4 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Bf7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 23. Ne4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nxg4 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 24. Qxg4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {
>Black last book move [%emt 0:00:00]} 25. f6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} h5 {
>[%eval 35,16] [%emt 0:01:00]} 26. Qf5 {White last book move [%emt 0:00:00]} Qc8
>{[%eval 55,15] [%emt 0:00:29]} 27. Qxc8 {[%eval 0,15] [%emt 0:00:35]} Rxc8 {
>[%eval 38,17] [%emt 0:00:15]} 28. fxg7 {[%eval 0,16] [%emt 0:00:39]} Bxg7 {
>(Kg8xg7) [%eval 30,19] [%emt 0:00:58]} 29. Nd6 {
>(Ne4-g5) [%eval 17,16] [%emt 0:00:31]} Rc6 {[%eval 64,18] [%emt 0:00:55]} 30.
>Bf4 {[%eval 8,16] [%emt 0:00:39]} Bf6 {(Bg7-f8) [%eval 59,18] [%emt 0:00:51]}
>31. axb5 {[%eval 58,15] [%emt 0:00:38]} axb5 {[%eval 74,18] [%emt 0:00:34]} 32.
>g4 {(Bb1-f5) [%eval 53,15] [%emt 0:01:00]} hxg4 {
>(Rc6-a6) [%eval 88,17] [%emt 0:00:37]} 33. hxg4 {[%eval 60,14] [%emt 0:00:11]}
>Ra6 {(d5-d4) [%eval 91,17] [%emt 0:00:46]} 34. Kg2 {
>(Bb1-f5) [%eval 60,14] [%emt 0:00:50]} Bxb2 {
>(d5-d4) [%eval 69,15] [%emt 0:00:29]} 35. Re7 {[%eval 115,15] [%emt 0:00:46]}
>d4 {[%eval 82,14] [%emt 0:00:35]} 36. Rxf7 {[%eval 113,14] [%emt 0:00:38]} Rxd6
>{[%eval 143,17] [%emt 0:00:39]} 37. Rb7 {[%eval 154,14] [%emt 0:00:27]} Rf6 {
>(Rd6-a6) [%eval 208,17] [%emt 0:00:50]} 38. Bh7+ {[%eval 168,15] [%emt 0:00:35]
>} Kf8 {[%eval 180,17] [%emt 0:00:20]} 39. Bg5 {[%eval 168,15] [%emt 0:00:34]}
>Re6 {(Rf6-c6) [%eval 204,17] [%emt 0:00:32]} 40. Rxb5 {
>[%eval 214,14] [%emt 0:00:19]} Rc6 {(Kf8-g7) [%eval 221,17] [%emt 0:01:13]} 41.
>Be4 {[%eval 283,14] [%emt 0:00:31]} Rc8 {(Rc6-e6) [%eval 204,16] [%emt 0:00:23]
>} 42. Bh6+ {(Rb5-b7) [%eval 329,15] [%emt 0:00:33]} Kg8 {
>[%eval 199,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} 43. Bf5 {(Bh6-f4) [%eval 336,16] [%emt 0:00:29]}
>Re8 {[%eval 355,15] [%emt 0:00:17]} 44. Rxc5 {[%eval 343,15] [%emt 0:00:40]}
>Bc3 {(d4-d3) [%eval 442,15] [%emt 0:00:22]} 45. Bg6 {
>[%eval 397,14] [%emt 0:00:20]} Ra8 {(Re8-b8) [%eval 464,17] [%emt 0:00:36]} 46.
>Rc7 {[%eval 439,14] [%emt 0:00:56]} Na6 {[%eval 446,15] [%emt 0:00:12]} 47. Re7
>{(Rc7-g7+) [%eval 445,14] [%emt 0:00:19]} d3 {
>(Bc3-b4) [%eval 523,15] [%emt 0:00:20]} 48. Bxd3 {[%eval 489,14] [%emt 0:00:25]
>} Rc8 {[%eval 926,17] [%emt 0:00:23]} 49. Bh7+ {
>(g4-g5) [%eval 521,14] [%emt 0:00:32]} Kh8 {[%eval 536,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 50.
>Bf5 {[%eval 530,16] [%emt 0:00:18]} Ra8 {[%eval 811,18] [%emt 0:00:19]} 51. g5
>{[%eval 841,16] [%emt 0:00:28]} Bb2 {(Na6-c5) [%eval 1281,17] [%emt 0:00:22]}
>52. Be4 {(g5-g6) [%eval 1566,13] [%emt 0:00:18]} Rd8 {
>(Bb2-a3) [%eval 1857,18] [%emt 0:00:31]} 53. g6 {
>[%eval 32756,12] [%emt 0:00:02]} 1-0



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