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Subject: Re: To Those Frustrated with Getting Slaughtered By computer Programs!

Author: Terry Presgrove

Date: 15:00:44 04/20/99

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On April 20, 1999 at 12:08:20, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:

>On April 20, 1999 at 11:48:50, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>Hi Odell:
>>There is another way to cope with frustration that I recomend here after many
>>time probing it: just forget the idea you can win and concentrate in giving the
>>hardest and toughest game as possible to the machine. I play these monster as I
>>would play a GM in a tournament: trying to do my best to compell the GM to do
>>near his best to defeate me. So frustration is avoided and even a kind of
>>satisfaction arrives if you are defeated but only after 50 moves in a technical,
>>hard ending. And you learn a lot. And sometimes even you play over your head and
>>get a draw...
>>Fernando
>
>	Sometimes I am not happy with my old and slow machine; but from that
>perspective it has a positive side: I can beat my engines from time to time
>without crippling them, so there is no frustration for me anymay (:
>	I think it requires discipline to play the machine at its best, and losing one
>game after another can be discouraging. It does not discourage me now, but I
>think it could when I was a beginner.
>José.

 I've been playing chess for more than 25 years. Although certainly no expert
 I'm not a beginner either. I played for sometime on ICC averaging around 1800
 in standard matches. Many years ago I purchased the applied concepts computer
 which had the Boris 2.5 module. Always upgrading ending up with the
 Stenitz module before they went out of business. Later I purchased a
 Fedelity Challenger 9. I was always able to more than hold my own with
 these machines. I quit playing for about 5 years bought a computer and
 Rebel9 and proceeded to discover that I had been left in the dust bend of
 history. Always before I was able to through hard work and good mental
 discipline create a plan and finally acheive it. But after many many games
 against rebel9 and now Rebel10 I have yet to win a legitament standard
 control game against these electronic monsters! While I have managed a few
 blitz victories they were always gimmical anti-computer techniques that
 I have learned watching my crafty program play on ICC. For more than a year
 now I have suffered humiliating defeat continuosly. Perhaps one draw and that
questonable. There were games that I was dead even after 40 moves but I always
seem to find a wasy to loose in a pawn down ending. My point is that those
of us in the 1600-1800 uscf range have almost no chance to defeat these
technological monsters and I like the idea of using a data base of near
equal players to create an opening book and compete against an opponet
(in this case Rebel-freeware) which if I play well can be beaten. I have
come to the conclusion that for me to defeat Rebel9/10 would be like
sinking a battleship with a BB gun.





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