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Subject: Re: Fritz532 is often better endgame player than Hiarcs7

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 00:56:10 04/22/99

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On April 22, 1999 at 03:29:12, blass uri wrote:

>Fritz532 won 5 ssdf games(out of 40)  against Hiarcs7 because of a poor play of
>Hiarcs7 in  the endgame.
>
>first position in the 9th game of the match Fritz532-Hiarcs7
>
>2r3k1/5p2/p1P3p1/1pR5/3N4/PP2r2P/6P1/6K1 b - - 0 1
>
>Hiarcs7 played with no plan and lost after Rd8 Nc2 Rg3
>Hiarcs7 needed to sacrifice its rook for the pawn at c7.
>It won the pawns a3,b3 but is was not enough.
>
>Hiarcs7 evaluated the position when it played Rd8 as 1.91 pawns advantage for
>black.
>
>Kf8 is better than Rd8 because black needs to stop the white pawn.

Passed pawns are a problem for EVERY program. Maybe CSTal evaluates them
correctly but I don't know any other program which handles and evals them right.

>3th position(from game 30 of the match):
>8/1r2kpp1/b1p1p3/P1P1P1bp/3P4/2B3PP/P1N5/4R1K1 w - - 0 1
>
>white has 2 pawns advantage and it is enough compensation for the positional
>advantage of black.
>I think that the game should be drawn but Hiarcs7 lost this game with white.
>
>I did not analyze the game to find the losing mistake.

To me this position is not clear. There is much dynamics in it with the bishop
pair and the weak pawn d4.

>4th position(from game 32 of the match):
>3r2k1/4bppp/p1n1pn2/8/Pp2N3/1B2B3/1PP2PPP/4R1K1 w - - 0 1
>again Hiarcs7 with white should not lose but it lost the game.

Uri,
Of course this SHOULD not be lost. Like many other positions. Like many other
positions Hiarcs WON. An equal position is no forced draw. It has equal chances
for both sides. But from time to time one side makes at least one bad move so
that te opponent wins. This is nothing unusual. If it weren't so we would see
almost no wins.
What I want to say is that because of 2, 3, 4 or 5 examples out of a match don't
show much. Ignore for a moment that I disagree with your idea that Hiarcs made
bad positional moves (mistakes) or Fritz5 played better positional moves. What
would change my mind if Hiarcs loses more games than these few because of such
inappropriate endgame play. If H7 loses 4x because of this but wins 20x in other
endgames while Fritz wins these 4 and loses the other 20, well, what would you
say? And BTW you can interpret almost every loss as positional blunder at a
certain point.




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