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Subject: Re: Fritz532 is often better endgame player than Hiarcs7

Author: blass uri

Date: 04:28:43 04/22/99

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On April 22, 1999 at 07:08:15, James T. Walker wrote:

>On April 22, 1999 at 03:29:12, blass uri wrote:
>
>>Fritz532 won 5 ssdf games(out of 40)  against Hiarcs7 because of a poor play of
>>Hiarcs7 in  the endgame.
>>
>>first position in the 9th game of the match Fritz532-Hiarcs7
>>
>>2r3k1/5p2/p1P3p1/1pR5/3N4/PP2r2P/6P1/6K1 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Hiarcs7 played with no plan and lost after Rd8 Nc2 Rg3
>>Hiarcs7 needed to sacrifice its rook for the pawn at c7.
>>It won the pawns a3,b3 but is was not enough.
>>
>>Hiarcs7 evaluated the position when it played Rd8 as 1.91 pawns advantage for
>>black.
>>
>>Kf8 is better than Rd8 because black needs to stop the white pawn.
>>
>>
>
>
>Hello Uri,
>In the above position, my Fritz 5.32 on K6-2/350 with 128Meg hash tables plays
>Rd8 after only 7 seconds and holds this move untill 16:03 in the 14 ply where it
>changes to f6.  Since Fritz 5.32 plays the same move you are complaining about
>how is it better?  If you  want to compare programs in certain positions, then
>play the same position with each computer from both sides.  Although Rd8 is not
>a great move, it may not be the losing move.  And if Kf8 is the best move it
>makes no difference since neither program plays it and you are comparing the two
>programs in this position only.
>Jim Walker

I have not Fritz5.32 and Hiarcs7 so I cannot compare the programs by this way.

I looked at the games and I saw that Hiarcs7 lost positions that it should not
lose.

It is possible that Fritz5.32 was lucky to play in the right side in a position
that both programs do not know what to do with black and the only way to check
it is to see if Fritz5.32 can beat itself in this endgame.


You may be right that Rd8 was not the losing move but I think that after it
black has nothing better than going back to c8.

Re6 Nb4 Rc8 is Junior5.4's line after Rd8 Nc2 and not Rg3.

Uri



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