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Subject: Re: King Night Bishop - 50 Moves

Author: Steve Coladonato

Date: 11:45:19 04/22/99

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On April 22, 1999 at 14:26:24, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On April 22, 1999 at 13:05:04, Steve Coladonato wrote:
>
>>At one time, there was a rule in chess that in the case of a known forced mate a
>>player was allowed the standard 50 move rule or twice the number of moves with
>>best play to execute the mate.  The KNB vs K ending is a 34 move ending  with
>>best play.  Therefore a player was allowed 68 moves to effect the mate.  Does
>>anyone know if this rule is still in effect?
>
>Can you post a position for this?  The longest ending of this type that I've
>seen is something right around 50 moves. (The losing king is in the wrong
>corner)

The 34 moves was from any position on the board.  I'm sure that there are many
positions which do not require the full 34 moves and a few which would.  Which
positions would require the 34 moves, I don't know.

I haven't seen any documentation on this in recent books but back in the 70's
there was quite a bit available.  Unfortunately, I don't have any of those old
books around.  I think the basic mates were as follows:

KQ v K - 9 moves
KR v K - 12 moves
KBB v K - 20 moves
KNB v K - 34 moves

Again, from any position on the board, mate could be accomplished within the
number of moves above with best play.



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