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Subject: Re: Why are programs not included in GM events

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 07:08:07 04/23/99

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On April 23, 1999 at 01:49:38, blass uri wrote:

>
>On April 22, 1999 at 22:33:04, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On April 22, 1999 at 13:15:58, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>I understand that most GM events ban program/computer
>>>participation.  I wonder why.  My opinion is that that
>>>the program/computer should be allowed to compete,
>>>perhaps only people get the prize money, but it would
>>>be interesting to see how the computer faired in GM
>>>events (programs compete, but not included in ranking
>>>for prize money).
>>>
>>>There will be a day when programs are like cars and
>>>a person competing against a computer (car) would not
>>>be interesting, but today it is still close (at least
>>>at the top) and interesting.  I think more interest and
>>>sponsors would be involved if programs could compete
>>>in a GM event.  This would also allow the GM's to get
>>>paid (normal tournament prizes) for competing.
>>>
>>>This use to be common back in the 80's, but now that
>>>the programs are strong, the programs can no longer
>>>compete.  Why?
>>>
>>>Opinions?
>>>
>>>Any ideas on how to change this?
>>>
>>>Best Regards,
>>>Chris Carson
>>
>>Hello Chris,
>>I think the reason is because many Masters/GM's don't feel confident playing the
>>latest/greatest programs on fast hardware.  Even though the programs are not
>>eligible for prize money they do affect the outcome of the event and therefore
>>who will get the money.  So If you want IM's/GM's in your tournament you better
>>keep the computers away.
>>Jim Walker
>
>I do not think that this is the case
>
>I know that Junior4.9 played in a tournament in 1998 with humans.
>It drew against 3 GM's in this tournament and also played against 2 IM's(won one
>game and lost one game).
>
>You can find the games in Junior5 CD
>f:\database\Junior5.cbh
>
>Junior did not compete in the open championship of Israel a few weeks ago but I
>asked if there was a law against Junior and the reply was that there was no law
>against it and the only reason that it did not compete is that Amir Ban did not
>registered
>
>Uri


Hello Uri,
Have you ever seen a "Chess Life" magazine ?  If not, let me say I can look at
the tournament section where tournament directors advertise their upcoming
tournaments/events.  You can see hundreds of Tournaments and ALL say "NO
COMPUTERS".  I believe the reason is as stated above.  If you want the best
players to come to your event then you must ban computers.
Jim Walkere



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