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Subject: Re: We need volunteers to compute a rating list based on public ssdf games

Author: blass uri

Date: 09:09:13 04/29/99

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On April 29, 1999 at 11:14:40, Robert Ericsson wrote:

>On April 29, 1999 at 08:42:24, blass uri wrote:
>
>>Most of the games of the ssdf are not public and we have no way to check if they
>>really happened.
>>
>>I agree to do part of the job and to find the results of part of the public ssdf
>>games but if we want to have all the results then we need more people to do it.
>>
>>I hoped that a program can do it but I understand that probably no program is
>>going to deal with it because the names of the programs in the pgn file of the
>>games are not exactly the same(for example sometimes Fritz5 is called Fritz 5
>>and sometimes it is called to Fritz 5.0) .
>>
>>I hope that after we have all the results then it will be easy to compute rating
>>by a relevant program that get the names of the programs and the results.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Why this mistrust with SSDF? If you don't trust them to use real games then
>you won't really know if the published are real either, or?

1)We can discover sometimes that there is a problem with published games.

For example I discovered that one program was slowed down by a significant
factor in one of the matches of the ssdf games and they repeated the games.

Without games it is impossible to discover nothing.

2)I believe that most of the ssdf testers are honest but the problem is that it
is too easy to cheat.
All you have to do is to volunteer the ssdf and give them the results that you
want.

If you are careful not to be too greedy and give them results that gives your
favourite program performance of 2950 instead of 2350 and you give it only
performance of 2450-2500 instead of 2350 then noone will suspect that you are
cheating.

Uri



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