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Subject: Re: Fritz5 Silences All Critics-Dr. Hyatt included!!

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 14:39:07 04/30/99

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On April 30, 1999 at 15:31:47, odell hall wrote:

>Hi CCC
>
>   I am sure we all Miss Dr. Hyatt (I know I do!).  However I think that it is
>very convient for Dr. Hyatt to disappear!  now that computers are proving in
>front of the world that they are Grandmasters!!  (Beating a 2673 at game\60 over
>several games is not an IM Performance!!) It seems now he doesn't have explain
>how it is possible for a so-called "weak International Master" ( Hyatts
>Acessment of Top Programs) to Defeat a Fide Elo 2677 in a match at faster than
>action chess time controls.  In my view If fritz is capable of Beating A super
>grandmaster at game\60 which is a reasonably long game, then no doubt it is
>grandmaster strength.  Ofcourse there is more than this isolated match to come
>to this conclusion, kasparov himself said in his recent speech in the united
>states that micro programs are now over 2600!  Ofcourse We have many
>international masters and Grandmasters saying the same things, including Larry
>Kaufman. It is now starting to look very silly for anyone to say otherwise,
>those that maintain this viewpoint will no doubt lose credibility in the eyes of
>the computer chess public.


The time controls is the key to this debate.

My understanding is that half of the games were played at G/60 and the other
half were at G/30.  This is a far cry from 40/2, which I'm sure is the time
control that Bob Hyatt refers to when he states that computers aren't GM
strength.  (Nobody would argue, for instance, that comps aren't GM strength at
blitz chess!)

Also, this is only one match against one GM.  It's an impressive result, but
remember that Judit Polgar is probably the most agressive, tactically-oriented
Super-GM in the world today.  (Veselin Topalov and Alexei Shirov also come to
mind).  Her style plays right into the primar strength of a computer.  Things
would be different against a positional player like Karpov, Salov, or Seirawan.

My view is this - it's obvious that at G/60 or faster, the micros play at GM or
super-GM strength.  At 40/2, it's not as clear - there are simply not enough
games to draw a firm conclusion.  My guess is that they are nearly GM strength,
and that the result of a given match would likely depend on how well the GM can
implement an "anti-computer" style.

--Peter












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