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Subject: Re: Are computers really the tactical monsters we thought they were?

Author: blass uri

Date: 23:16:44 05/01/99

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On May 02, 1999 at 01:08:35, odell hall wrote:

>
>On April 30, 1999 at 22:06:19, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>Many people have interpreted the Fritz-Polgar match to be a great victory for
>>Fritz.
>>
>>I say it was a great victory for Polgar!
>>
>>At G/60, playing like a wild man with a wild tactical game that computers are
>>supposed to excel at, she draws Fritz 2-2! In fact, in one game, she
>>outcalculated Fritz completely, utterly crushing it in 23 moves.
>>
>>We have heard claims of computers on readily available hardware equaling
>>Kasparov tactically. This excellent match by Polgar casts serious doubt on this
>>theory.
>>
>>James
>
>
>Well First of all, I was surprised by the result of the match.  Judith has
>always been one of my favorite players, I was truly surprised that fritz5
>outplayed her tactically at all.  Although I was aware that micro programs were
>very strong tactically I did not think they were as strong as Super Grandmasters
>in this area.  The reason is, When I go over supergrandmaster games with
>computers, Often they don't see the Tactics of the super GM.


It sepends on the kind of tactics.

It is clear that sometimes GM are stronger than the computers in tactics.

Humans are better than computers at long tactics and computers are better than
all humans in short tactics.

 I can post a Game
>to illustrate my point where No program I have sees the tactical brillancies of
>a game played by kasparov(I'll have to look this game up).

In the same time I can show you games when programs are not able to
do the tactical errors of super GM's.

Uri



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