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Subject: Re: 40/2 (Again)

Author: odell hall

Date: 04:21:22 05/02/99

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On May 02, 1999 at 06:05:58, blass uri wrote:

>
>On May 02, 1999 at 05:48:07, odell hall wrote:
>
>>
>>On May 02, 1999 at 01:49:32, James Robertson wrote:
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>>>I think It would be a rather cool project to compile a list of all the GM -
>>>computer games played at 40/2. So far this is my list:
>>>
>>>Rebel10 - Anand 1998, 2 games, 0.5-1.5
>>>Fritz - Efimov ??, 1 Game 1-0 (I don't have the pgn for this game; does anybody
>>>know where I can get it?
>>>
>>>Can anybody help me lengthen it?
>>>
>>>James
>>
>>
>>
>>Wow that's pretty hard to do because most grandmasters are scared to play
>>computers.
>
>I do not know about it.
>Junior played against GM's in tournaments and there was no problem.
>
>Amir Ban is not aware to problem and there was only one case when smirin refused
>to play against it in G/30
>
>I think that it played at least 10 games against GM's
>at time controls of 2 hours per 40 moves+1 hour per game
>or 90 minutes per 30 moves +1 hour per game.
>
>Maybe 5-10% of the GM's are scared to play against computers and this is the
>reason that most sponsors do not let computers to play.
>
>Do you have an evidence that the number of GM's who play in tournaments when
>program are allowed to play  is significantlly smaller?(assume there is no right
>to refuse to play against the computer, and assume the same prizes for humans)
>
>Uri


  Hi Uri

 Well something as subjective as Fear would be very hard to prove in any case.
The only evidence that I can provide is the lack of visible games at 40/2
themselves.  How else do we explain the refusal of Fide and other chess
organizations to allow computers to Compete? You should hear Bob Hyaats story
how that he was invited to play in the missippi State championship with Cray
blitz on several occasions until the Program won the event, then he was not
invited back again. In this case and other's what other assumption can be made?
If you study the history  chess you will find nuberous examples of humans
dodging other humans because of fear of losing, this is a common thing with
chessplayers in general. Now I am not saying that all grandmasters are afraid.
You may say that Fide prohibits computers from playing because of pressures from
the Players themselves, but the question must be asked  Why do the humans oppose
computers in the first place? Many will give such superficial answers like they
don't come to a tournament to play computers. But if you are a professional
player and chess is what you make your living at, why should it make a
difference who you play. In fact if you think computers are weak you should
welcome the computer in a tournament!  Your eyes should pop out with dollars
signs on them.  EASY MOney!! But ofcourse if the opposite is true, then you will
adamatly oppose the computer from entering because you know your chances of
winning the money is slim.  I know personally i would be angry to have a
computer play in my section, because I know that even a weak computer is not
going to be a piece of cake to beat.



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