Author: Bertil Eklund
Date: 13:59:42 05/02/99
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On May 02, 1999 at 07:21:22, odell hall wrote: > >On May 02, 1999 at 06:05:58, blass uri wrote: > >> >>On May 02, 1999 at 05:48:07, odell hall wrote: >> >>> >>>On May 02, 1999 at 01:49:32, James Robertson wrote: >>> >>>>I think It would be a rather cool project to compile a list of all the GM - >>>>computer games played at 40/2. So far this is my list: >>>> >>>>Rebel10 - Anand 1998, 2 games, 0.5-1.5 >>>>Fritz - Efimov ??, 1 Game 1-0 (I don't have the pgn for this game; does anybody >>>>know where I can get it? >>>> >>>>Can anybody help me lengthen it? >>>> >>>>James >>> >>> >>> >>>Wow that's pretty hard to do because most grandmasters are scared to play >>>computers. >> >>I do not know about it. >>Junior played against GM's in tournaments and there was no problem. >> >>Amir Ban is not aware to problem and there was only one case when smirin refused >>to play against it in G/30 >> >>I think that it played at least 10 games against GM's >>at time controls of 2 hours per 40 moves+1 hour per game >>or 90 minutes per 30 moves +1 hour per game. >> >>Maybe 5-10% of the GM's are scared to play against computers and this is the >>reason that most sponsors do not let computers to play. >> >>Do you have an evidence that the number of GM's who play in tournaments when >>program are allowed to play is significantlly smaller?(assume there is no right >>to refuse to play against the computer, and assume the same prizes for humans) >> >>Uri > > > Hi Uri > > Well something as subjective as Fear would be very hard to prove in any case. >The only evidence that I can provide is the lack of visible games at 40/2 >themselves. How else do we explain the refusal of Fide and other chess >organizations to allow computers to Compete? You should hear Bob Hyaats story >how that he was invited to play in the missippi State championship with Cray >blitz on several occasions until the Program won the event, then he was not >invited back again. In this case and other's what other assumption can be made? >If you study the history chess you will find nuberous examples of humans >dodging other humans because of fear of losing, this is a common thing with >chessplayers in general. Now I am not saying that all grandmasters are afraid. >You may say that Fide prohibits computers from playing because of pressures from >the Players themselves, but the question must be asked Why do the humans oppose >computers in the first place? Many will give such superficial answers like they >don't come to a tournament to play computers. But if you are a professional >player and chess is what you make your living at, why should it make a >difference who you play. In fact if you think computers are weak you should >welcome the computer in a tournament! Your eyes should pop out with dollars >signs on them. EASY MOney!! But ofcourse if the opposite is true, then you will >adamatly oppose the computer from entering because you know your chances of >winning the money is slim. I know personally i would be angry to have a >computer play in my section, because I know that even a weak computer is not >going to be a piece of cake to beat. Hallo! GM Karlsson-Hiarcs6 summer 1997 2draws Karlsson ca:2500 Bertil SSDF
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