Author: KarinsDad
Date: 09:00:49 05/04/99
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On May 03, 1999 at 20:37:31, Prakash Das wrote: [snip] >> >>I am disagreeing with him. :) On matters of computer chess, he is FAR from an >>authority. The developers of computer chess software (and hardware :) are the >>experts when it comes to this debate. >> >>What I think is really cool about it is we have just seen Deep Blue pass a >>limited Turing Test. The best player in the world thinks that it cheated, it >>had to be a human playing some of those moves! >> >>Dave > > Uhh.. how? DB team had access to GMs during the progress of the game. Also, the >computer crashed a few times during play and rebooted. Which raises suspicions >of changes inflicted on it by humans before/after. >Kasparov knows quite a lot, he is not your usual Salov mouthing off, or Judit >Polgar demanding huge appearance fees even though she is not that good (thrashed >by Fritz) > Limited turing test.. uh. >That's why I stopped posting to internet. Dave's comment seemed reasonable to me. Although I am not an expert on computer chess, it seems (and of course, this is a perception), that Kasparov knows more about computer chess than a lot of people, but compared to Robert Hyatt or Ed Schroder or Jonathan Schaeffer, his knowledge appears to be very general in nature. I would not consider him to be an expert, just an informed user. When did Kasparov ever compare SSS to Alpha Beta, or determine how much it is worth in an evaluation to take a pawn on the fringe with a bishop? Yet, he often makes claims about "No program would make such a move." or "This is how programs think.". Although informed, he makes a lot of assumptions and cannot be considered an expert on computer chess. As to the limited Turing test statement, it is apparent that the Deep Blue programmers fooled either a very intelligent multi-lingual individual who is the best in his field with either a program that emulates a simple Turing test (for Kasparov to make his claims) or the rest of the computer experts (for them to not make those claims). KarinsDad :)
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