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Subject: Re: Turing test

Author: Will Singleton

Date: 11:35:58 05/04/99

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On May 04, 1999 at 13:06:06, Prakash Das wrote:

>On May 03, 1999 at 22:06:50, Will Singleton wrote:
>
>>On May 03, 1999 at 20:37:31, Prakash Das wrote:
>>
>>>On May 02, 1999 at 12:10:26, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 01, 1999 at 22:33:58, James Robertson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 01, 1999 at 19:29:38, odell hall wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is the same person who accuses IBM of fraud.  Just because he is a world
>>>>>>>champion doesn't mean that all of his opinions are correct.  (Fischer, anyone?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't think anyone ever claimed that all of his opinions were correct. But I
>>>>>>think even  his enemies would admitt that on matters of chess he is the premier
>>>>>>authority! Then on subjects of Politics or philosophy I would listen to kaspy
>>>>>>with a grain of salt but when it comes to chess , surely his opinion should be
>>>>>>taken seriously certainly above a 2500 AND BELOW CHESS PLAYER.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am not disagreeing with you, but he claimed that DB had cheated, saying "No
>>>>>computer could play a move like Be4", which certainly sounds like he is talking
>>>>>about chess. Because of his comments (he is after all the premier authority) do
>>>>>you believe that DB had to have cheated?
>>>>>
>>>>>James
>>>>
>>>>I am disagreeing with him. :)  On matters of computer chess, he is FAR from an
>>>>authority.  The developers of computer chess software (and hardware :) are the
>>>>experts when it comes to this debate.
>>>>
>>>>What I think is really cool about it is we have just seen Deep Blue pass a
>>>>limited Turing Test.  The best player in the world thinks that it cheated, it
>>>>had to be a human playing some of those moves!
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>> Uhh.. how? DB team had access to GMs during the progress of the game. Also, the
>>>computer crashed a few times during play and rebooted. Which raises suspicions
>>>of changes inflicted on it by humans before/after.
>>>Kasparov knows quite a lot, he is not your usual Salov mouthing off, or Judit
>>>Polgar demanding huge appearance fees even though she is not that good (thrashed
>>>by Fritz)
>>> Limited turing test.. uh.
>>>That's why I stopped posting to internet.
>>
>>
>>Thanks for your insight, uh.
>>
>>Will
>
> Is this the moderator I voted for? I wonder how your one-line derisive sentence
>enhanced CCC.

Probably not much.  Look, you made a very rude comment to Dave regarding his
point about a "limited" Turing test.  You implied it was so off-base it wasn't
worth reading.  But in rebuttal you didn't make your case at all, and when one
debates ineffectively, there is usually a reason for it.  Hence, my comment.

So I apologize.  Your turn.

Will



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