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Subject: Re: Are a Knowledge program better in blitz games than Fastest programs

Author: José Carlos

Date: 09:50:32 05/06/99

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On May 06, 1999 at 12:08:29, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:

>On May 06, 1999 at 11:55:52, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>On May 05, 1999 at 13:47:07, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
>>
>>>On May 05, 1999 at 13:26:43, jose hernandez wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>For example Are a knowledge program like Rebel or Hiarcs better in blitz games
>>>>than a Fastest programs like Fritz or Junior ?
>>>>
>>>>or a Knowledge program is better in long controls than a fastest programs ?
>>>>
>>>>What do you think?
>>>
>>>	I think that a program can have lots of knowledge and be a fast searcher. It
>>>seems obvious that a program can lack knowledge and be a slow searcher too.
>>
>>  Hey, that's my program!!. So what do you call my program
>>little-knowledge-based or slow-searcher?  :)
>>
>
>	I would call it a promising program in an early stage of development (:
>
>>>	I do not see a clear distinction between 'fast' and 'knowledge', to me those
>>>terms are not conflictive with each other. In fact, I think that speed gives
>>>knowledge and knowledge gives speed, in some sense.
>>>	The longer the time control, the better search algorithm will prevail. I do not
>>>think it has to do with speed or knowledge.
>>
>>  The fact is that the AI definition for a knowledge-based program (in general,
>>not particularly chess) is quite different from the definitions (yes, in plural)
>>most people is using here. I think it's not important at the moment what is the
>>AI definition, but the most important is what any who wants to take part in this
>>discussion wants to say when he speak of knowledge-based program.
>>  Perhaps, if people start their post with something similar to a personal
>>definition of the terms, we all could understand better what he wants to say.
>>
>
>	I carefully avoid the term 'knowledge based', as I really do not know what it
>means. It seems like a hot potato these days.
>	But I say 'knowledge program' when I mean a program that has lots of chess
>knowledge (other types of knowledge do not seem relevant in this context). This
>chess knowldege can be almost everywhere, not only in the evaluation function.
>
>>  José C.
>
>	Oye, tocayo, ¿de dónde eres? Supongo que hablas castellano. Yo soy mexicano, de
>Ensenada, y actualmente vivo en Guanajuato.
>José.

  Soy español, de Murcia. Entiendo tu punto de vista sobre la cantidad de
"conocimiento" en los programas de ajedrez, aunque no está de más clarificarlo,
pues los términos empiezan a resultar confusos.

  In english:

  I'm spanish, from Murcia. I understand your point of view about knowledge in
chess programs, but it is good to clarify it, cause terms begin to result
somewhat confusing.

  José C.



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