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Subject: Re: a request

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 14:53:17 05/06/99

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On May 06, 1999 at 17:18:47, jonathon smith wrote:

>On May 06, 1999 at 17:12:18, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On May 06, 1999 at 15:41:11, Greg Lazarou wrote:
>>
>>>Yeap,
>>>
>>>a) Somebody puts up a thread on starting a campaign to get Bob back here - great
>>>idea I think!
>>>b) A "moderator" takes upon himself to explain how he will not "beg" for Bob to
>>>come back and provides other excuses and justifications for past actions.
>>>c) Bob comes back to explain his position and gets further attacked by the
>>>"moderator"
>>>d) Another moderator jumps in and erases the whole thread and any subsequent
>>>mention to it
>>>e) I'm sure the next step is to erase this whole thread too
>>>
>>>Great "job" guys!!! With Bob and Ed leaving this is not going to be the same...
>>>I'd think the moderator's job would have been to beg these types of people to
>>>not give up on this place.
>>>
>>>Greg
>>
>>They may start erasing entire people soon.
>>
>>bruce
>
>You guys started the 'erasing'.
>
>Chris Whittington

I don't feel at all bad about any of the cases where I asked for a post to be
deleted, or asked for a member to be banned.  I did the best I could with that
job and I don't have anything to be embarassed about.

This place is not anarchic, it's something that is built into its charter, and
that's fine with me.

The situation now is nuts.  What has happened, I believe, is that since this
current group was elected, Steve added a feature that allows any moderator to
delete any post.

Previously we had to ask Steve, which inconvenienced him, or inconvenienced Tim,
or both.  There were periods, like at night, where we could do nothing, because
nobody was awake to do the deleting.

This was inconvenient, stressful, and slow, but it also served as a built-in
check.  You couldn't just delete something and fail to tell anyone.  At least
one other person knew about it, and since there is no sensible reason not to CC
the other moderators, typically we all knew about it, and if there was a
problem, someone could say something.

The situation now is simply ghastly.  It's the difference between being handled
according to a system with at least some checks built into it, and being dragged
off to the gulag at three in the morning.

bruce

PS: The first guy to be banned here was banned at your insistence, so I don't
know what you mean by "you guys".



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