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Subject: Re: who "moderates" the moderators

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 16:43:48 05/06/99

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On May 06, 1999 at 19:02:50, Will Singleton wrote:

>
>On May 06, 1999 at 18:11:46, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
><snip>
>>What should change for the system to work better?
>>
>>I will start with some possibilities:
>>    1. Before a post removal can take place, there must be agreement by two
>>moderators, or one moderator plus someone from ICD.  This may be a good balance
>>between "timely post removal" and "unnecessary post removal".
>>    2. Possibly some mechanism to view deleted posts?  But this kind of defeats
>>the purpose of deleting them, so I don't know how good that would be.
>>    3. Remove posts, not people (except at their own request).  It would be
>>necessary to have some sort of "moderator-must-approve-this-post" mechanism to
>>avoid abuse of the kind seen in the past, though.
>>
>>Dave
>
>Dave,
>
>Good suggestions.  We had these discussions at the beginning of our term, and
>arranged things the best we could.  Point-by-point:
>
>1. We considered this, but felt it would take too much time to be effective,
>since we are all on different schedules.  Remember, we are all not here 24/7.
>It was further decided that if any one moderator got "out of hand," the others
>would take him to task.  There is also a provision for a moderator to be
>"canned," by vote of the other two.  So, essentially, the way we set it up means
>that decisions are tacticly approved by all.  Better ways to do it?  Sure, but
>that's what we came up with.

What was come up with doesn't seem terribly unreasonable.  I am just trying to
tweak.

>2. Defeats the purpose, as you said.
>
>3. We do remove posts, not people (unless requested).  There have only be one or
>two crazies who got the ax.  So I'm not sure I understand this one.

It wasn't in reference to a specific recent event.

>These and other decisions were given a lot of thought, and it seems to have
>worked out rather well.  There will always be people, for whatever reason, who
>will continue to complain, threaten, whatever, and for those there is little one
>can do.
>
>You might want to save these discussions, in the event you run and are elected
>next time.  They tend to repeat.
>
>Will

I don't think I will be running this time.  I wasn't elected last time, and have
no reason for me to believe it would be any different this time around.  Being a
moderator appears to be an even more thankless task than I envisioned it last
time, when I accepted your nomination.   So, I don't think I'll be taking
advantage of any opportunity to run this time around -- at least, my arm would
have to be twisted pretty hard before I did it.  And seeing as there were nine
candidates last time, that probably won't be necessary.

Dave



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